I am going to get into trouble sometime...

**Gremlin** · 11th June 2005, 01:08

Bear in mind, I am a learner, so some of the phenomenal speeds I have reached might be very tame to you...

Had my learners for about 5 weeks. Been riding for 3 weeks. Total of about 18 hours experience. Started enjoying The Esplanade (Eastern Beach) because it has bumps and I don't need hands to go over them at about 40 (faster and the suspension doesn't like it).

Been to 140 on the flat near Clevedon, regularly break the 70 riding around anywhere simply because it only needs a twist. Point View drive (closest twisty) is 70, I ride at 80-85 because I can.

Getting to my mum's school today I was stuck in traffic and running late. So I split in one part (massive queue to traffic light) to save a heap of time. Then I split twice more (cars pulling away slowly) to gain a couple of cars because it was soo easy.

When I first joined the forum, I thought tsk tsk bad people. Now I'm almost the same (except I need a faster bike).

Is this normal (ie it happens to all bikers) or am I being

?? Obviously I'm not cutting people off or splitting/weaving like crazy between cars to piss them off...

Just need some reassurance that I am still normal. Plus I'm afraid for when I'm let off the 70 rule and when I get a bigger bike...

**Ixion** · 11th June 2005, 01:21

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Bear in mind, I am a learner, so some of the phenomenal speeds I have reached might be very tame to you...

Had my learners for about 5 weeks. Been riding for 3 weeks. Total of about 18 hours experience. Started enjoying The Esplanade (Eastern Beach) because it has bumps and I don't need hands to go over them at about 40 (faster and the suspension doesn't like it).

Been to 140 on the flat near Clevedon, regularly break the 70 riding around anywhere simply because it only needs a twist. Point View drive (closest twisty) is 70, I ride at 80-85 because I can.

Getting to my mum's school today I was stuck in traffic and running late. So I split in one part (massive queue to traffic light) to save a heap of time. Then I split twice more (cars pulling away slowly) to gain a couple of cars because it was soo easy.

When I first joined the forum, I thought tsk tsk bad people. Now I'm almost the same (except I need a faster bike).

Is this normal (ie it happens to all bikers) or am I being

?? Obviously I'm not cutting people off or splitting/weaving like crazy between cars to piss them off...

Just need some reassurance that I am still normal. Plus I'm afraid for when I'm let off the 70 rule and when I get a bigger bike...

"Still normal"? Where's the evidence that you were *ever* normal ?

But, seriously, yes you will get into trouble if you are not careful. With Mr Plod if not with Mr Bin. Pay attention, now, Nana is talking to you

Ask Mr Tristank , I think it was, about the $1300 dollars of speeding fines he copped.

And things can go wrong very fast at speed in traffic. If you don't have the experience and skill to deal with it, it's not good. Those cages will hurt when they roll over you.

Take it easy, and SLOW DOWN. Go on some of the KB rides (NOT the ones that are a 150km end to end wheelie, followed by a 150km stoppie. The sensible ones) . 140 on the flat in the countryside is no big deal. Around town it will lead quite quickly to the chance to admire some pretty flashing lights. Blue and red ones.

But Nana knows that she is whistling in the wind, cos young guys haven't changed since Nana was a young guy herself.

So if you can't slow down at least be BLOODY CAREFUL.

**crazyxr250rider** · 11th June 2005, 01:24

id like to add licence revoked for 180 on learners not by me! posibly jailed?

**Ixion** · 11th June 2005, 01:30

Originally Posted by crazyxr250rider

id like to add licence revoked for 180 on learners not by me! posibly jailed?

Good point. Remember , 120+ on a learners = instant loss of licence, and bike confiscated by Mr Plod. Which might be tricky to explain to your Mum (subtle bit of terrorism there). Not to mention the whopping fine.

**Gremlin** · 11th June 2005, 01:31

yeah, I listened to nana, I don't speed in traffic, normally in slow lane just keeping the same speed as person in front (but on 80 roads, I "creep" beyond 70).

140 (and a 120 before that) were reached on long (it takes a while to reach that kinda speed) straights with no cars behind, or in front.

Also, my head does sorta still rule, so until I have ridden a road a couple of times and know what to expect where, just about every corner is overbraked. Then, once I know the road I go faster (most surprised on one corner to be doing 110).

I certainly don't want to revoke the license or donate limbs for speeding, but it is soooo fun. Coming out of a corner, power down (well, whatever the bike has after the corner). Simply magic.

Mum reckons there is no way she'd pick me up from any jail if I had to phone her...

**Gremlin** · 11th June 2005, 01:34

Originally Posted by Ixion

Good point. Remember , 120+ on a learners = instant loss of licence, and bike confiscated by Mr Plod. Which might be tricky to explain to your Mum (subtle bit of terrorism there). Not to mention the whopping fine.

hmmm might have to keep the speed below 120 until the restricted... which is what?? 4.5 months away??

**Ixion** · 11th June 2005, 01:35

Originally Posted by Gremlin

yeah, I listened to nana, I don't speed in traffic, normally in slow lane just keeping the same speed as person in front (but on 80 roads, I "creep" beyond 70).

140 (and a 120 before that) were reached on long (it takes a while to reach that kinda speed) straights with no cars behind, or in front.

Also, my head does sorta still rule, so until I have ridden a road a couple of times and know what to expect where, just about every corner is overbraked. Then, once I know the road I go faster (most surprised on one corner to be doing 110).

I certainly don't want to revoke the license or donate limbs for speeding, but it is soooo fun. Coming out of a corner, power down (well, whatever the bike has after the corner). Simply magic.

Mum reckons there is no way she'd pick me up from any jail if I had to phone her...

Well, I don't think that jail would be likely, but if a savage example of plod catches you at 120 you WILL be arrested, probably handcuffed. You WILL be taken to the plod shop and locked in a cell, and fingerprinted, and someone will have to come in and post bail for you. And if the plod is really nasty you may have to stay there until the next day and appear in court to be bailed.

Not nice.

**crazyxr250rider** · 11th June 2005, 01:35

gremlin dont get a R1 i want to live to 60years of age and die of an undiscovered disease

**Ixion** · 11th June 2005, 01:36

Originally Posted by Ixion

Good point. Remember , 120+ on a learners = instant loss of licence, and bike confiscated by Mr Plod. Which might be tricky to explain to your Mum (subtle bit of terrorism there). Not to mention the whopping fine.

Um, so does 100+ in a 50kph zone, by the way

**crazyxr250rider** · 11th June 2005, 01:40

sorry gremlin couldnt help myself

**crazyxr250rider** · 11th June 2005, 01:43

Originally Posted by crazyxr250rider

sorry gremlin couldnt help myself

please not silent treatment

**Gremlin** · 11th June 2005, 01:43

Originally Posted by crazyxr250rider

gremlin dont get a R1 i want to live to 60years of age and die of an undiscovered disease

hows that affect me?? I wanna Aprilia RSV1000 Factory R *drools* I know there are R1 lovers, but I think they are ugly...

Originally Posted by Ixion

Um, so does 100+ in a 50kph zone, by the way

I s'pose thinking about it, its the standard +50 rule...

I reckon its not fair. The average car driver ain't that good. Car = transport. Bike riders are better (becuase we dedicate ourselves to bikes) + we can go round corners much faster, and the bikes can/want to go faster. How come we don't get a higher speed limit (yes I want snow in Africa as well)

**N4CR** · 11th June 2005, 01:43

I never had a cage or cage liscence and I went a little crazy in my first motorcycling month, speeding stupidly, dragging everything with 4 wheels

. That was until my ticket.. that slowed me down one hell of alot.

Basically, 'don't do stupid things where you can see cars/people because Mr Plod or small children chasing balls will be there too' is the best way to look at it. Ride on main roads and other situations thinking: 'what would a police officer do if he saw me doing this. Would he approve?'. If the answer is no stop doing it!

Now... 1.3k later (correct Ixion

) I learnt a lesson. If I am going to feel the need to go practice cornering/feeling speed etc etc I go into a carpark where there are no cars or people spread out everywhere. The carpark I frequent has cars for the 1st 1 or 2 rows.. then the last two to four are empty at night or holidays etc, so I do laps around there then.

Because I'm sitting on 50 demerits (not the worst possible huh kawa kid

) I don't even risk going on the 100k rides, if I loose my liscence I dont know what I would do with my life.

Minimise the risk.. best way to it. If you feel peer pressure 'do a cool racey start' or whatever and you dont feel like you should, don't do it.

Best of luck on the roads Gremlin!
-Tristan

P.s indicate when filtering and don't filter anything except red lights for a while.

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90k in 50k zone... $510 50 Demerits
No L Plate $400 25 DM
>70kmh L limit $400 25 DM

Total $1310 and 50 demerits (only the highest one is taken).
And no more CBTA thingymagiggies... they will think im a serial speed rapist or something.

**John** · 11th June 2005, 01:44

Gremlin seems that bike has abit of me left it her, shes a nutter, she tends to like to do wheelies and lane split like a stripper in a strip joint full of doctors.

**Mr Skid** · 11th June 2005, 01:50

Originally Posted by Gremlin

I reckon its not fair. The average car driver ain't that good. Car = transport. Bike riders are better (becuase we dedicate ourselves to bikes) + we can go round corners much faster, and the bikes can/want to go faster. How come we don't get a higher speed limit (yes I want snow in Africa as well)

Ah. That would explain the roaring trade in aftermarket fairings, pegs, mirrors, levers etc.