The draft Land Transport Amendment Rule [2011] is out...

**Squiggles** · 18th November 2010, 15:10

The draft Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Amendment Rule [2011] is available for comment. Among the Rule amendment proposals are changes to improve the safety of young drivers and motorcyclists and moped riders, to improve the integrity of the driver licensing system and to make business processes clearer and easier. Submissions close on 20 December 2010.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation...mendment-2011/

Theres a bit in there about the removal of the 70kph limit for learners and looks like up to 660cc motorcycles (unless their power exceeds 150kw/tonne)

**hellokitty** · 18th November 2010, 17:57

removal of the 70km rule is a good idea - many times while I was on my L plate, I was tail gated and nearly run offf the road by angry cagers

scary too when you are new to riding.
I don't think they actually realised that it was the law, they just think you are being difficult and riding slowly.

**Mudfart** · 18th November 2010, 18:27

awww man i only just got my full after all that money, and a 250 ninja. now im riding something i coulda jumped on with a learners?

**Squiggles** · 18th November 2010, 21:20

Originally Posted by Mudfart

awww man i only just got my full after all that money, and a 250 ninja. now im riding something i coulda jumped on with a learners?

Fairly certain your SVF is above 150KW/tonne

**bogan** · 18th November 2010, 21:27

Originally Posted by Squiggles

Fairly certain your SVF is above 150KW/tonne

yeh, my bros is just over (unless they combine rider weight in there) so don't think there'd be too many 650s under it, maybe the DR would be? but is light as well so maybe not...

so I'd be paying big bike rego fees on a almost learner bike

**pete376403** · 18th November 2010, 21:38

DR650 is a bit less porky than the KLR650 but they are both "not lightweight"

KLR with a full tank is 190kg, and about 33kw at the crank. DR will be lighter with a full tank if only because the tank is much smaller than the KLR, power is about the same.

**baptist** · 18th November 2010, 21:43

Originally Posted by Squiggles

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation...mendment-2011/

Theres a bit in there about the removal of the 70kph limit for learners and looks like up to 660cc motorcycles (unless their power exceeds 150kw/tonne)

The 70km removal is good. The licence system changes may not please everyone though. Did I miss the bit where gaining a car licence is going to get harder?

**GOONR** · 18th November 2010, 21:45

Originally Posted by Squiggles

[....... looks like up to 660cc motorcycles (unless their power exceeds 150kw/tonne)

Bit like this then.

**The Stranger:Me** · 18th November 2010, 22:23

Originally Posted by Squiggles

Theres a bit in there about the removal of the 70kph limit for learners and looks like up to 660cc motorcycles (unless their power exceeds 150kw/tonne)

WTF? Everyone knows anything over 600cc is especially dangerous and in need of taxing off the road. Imagine the mayhem and carnage an XT660 in the hands of a learner.

**Squiggles** · 18th November 2010, 22:26

Originally Posted by GOONR

Bit like this then.

Totally, they refer to the Aussie approach throughout the Q&A doc.

Interesting that the SFV is on their approved list, I calculated it (albeit roughly) as over so perhaps there is an allowance in their one for rider weight...

**EJK** · 18th November 2010, 22:35

According to the formulae provided, Suzuki FXR and the Yamaha Scorpio barely (just) fits under.

**Squiggles** · 18th November 2010, 22:53

Originally Posted by EJK

According to the formulae provided, Suzuki FXR and the Yamaha Scorpio barely (just) fits under.

All under 250's are allowed unless they decide they should prohibit that model (e.g. RS250)

“prohibited motorcycle means—
“(a) a motorcycle with a total piston displacement exceeding
660 cm3:
“(b) a motorcycle with a total piston displacement between
250 cm3 and 660 cm3 and a power-to-weight ratio of
150 kilowatts per tonne or more that, unless approved
for use by the Agency by notice in the Gazette, is—
“(i) prohibited by the Minister; and“(ii) notified by the Agency in the Gazette and on the
Agency’s Internet site:
“(c) any other motorcycle that is—
“(i) prohibited by the Minister; and
“(ii) notified by the Agency in the Gazette and on the
Agency’s Internet site”.

The GDLS changes are interesting... Allowing a person to do their Restricted License Test or a competency-based training assessment

**\m/** · 18th November 2010, 23:31

Pretty sure LAMS allows 90kg for rider and fuel. There shouldn't be any cc limit though, any good sports 250 is faster than a 883 tractor.

**sil3nt** · 19th November 2010, 07:57

How long do these drafts take to actually go into law?

**Ronin** · 19th November 2010, 08:05

Originally Posted by baptist

The 70km removal is good. The licence system changes may not please everyone though. Did I miss the bit where gaining a car licence is going to get harder?

Yeah I like that bit. Has been needed for ages. It has been far to easy for far to long.