New round about/Traffic circle law??

[Lou Girardin]

It seems that the 'new' rule is so confusing that people have stopped indicating entirely.

[placidfemme]

It seems that the 'new' rule is so confusing that people have stopped indicating entirely.

lol thats correct... Since they had it on the news I've noticed that less people indicated... or maybe the nations just got dumber...

[Beemer]

Someone posted a good interpretation of the roundabout rules recently, apologies as I can't remember who!

"If turning right, indicate right; if turning left, indicate left; if going straight, indicate on exit".

I think most people followed this as a matter of common courtesy - if someone is waiting to enter the roundabout and would have to give way to you, then you should be indicating to show you are leaving the roundabout before you get to them.

As for the restricted, I was worried about all the instructions too, but I was given mine in 'bites' so I had to do something and go for a short while then pull over and the tester would tell me the next part. The only thing I got pulled up on was for going too slow - my RG's speedo read very high so I was sticking to that and it was obviously slower than I thought!

[zadok]

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...ew-road-rules/

Scroll down the page. Anyone that can't get the hang of it should have their licence jambed up their arsehole.

This is it. The main difference is that if you intend going off at 270 degrees (right) you indicate right as you are approaching the iintersection, turn off the indicator when you have entered the iintersection and then indicate again 90 degrees before the exit.
The same rule has been brought in here fairly recently.
In the 'OLD DAYS' you indicated left only, 90 degrees form your exit (simple).

[Devil]

This is it. The main difference is that if you intend going off at 270 degrees (right) you indicate right as you are approaching the iintersection, turn off the indicator when you have entered the iintersection and then indicate again 90 degrees before the exit.
The same rule has been brought in here fairly recently.
In the 'OLD DAYS' you indicated left only, 90 degrees form your exit (simple).

Errr, that's not quite correct.
You indicate right going into the round about and KEEP indicating right while going through the roundabout then indicate left 90 degrees (assuming a 4 entrypoint roundabout) before your exit.

[Ixion]

Errr, that's not quite correct.
You indicate right going into the round about and KEEP indicating right while going through the roundabout then indicate left 90 degrees (assuming a 4 entrypoint roundabout) before your exit.

It works fine for nice simple 0, 90, 180, 270 degree roundabouts.

Gets trickier if you are entering at 6 o'clock, and the exits are 8 o'clock, 10 o'clock, 2 o'clock, and 4 o'clock . The 8 o'clock is OK, just indicate left. But what about the 10 o'clock. Is it straight through. If not what do I indicate? I don't want to indicate left as I enter, because then the car waiting to come out of the 8 o'clock will think I'm going down there and pull out in front of me. In practice I'd treat 10 o'clock and the 2 o'clock as both straight ahead . But Mr Plod could argue that they're not.

[zadok]

Errr, that's not quite correct.
You indicate right going into the round about and KEEP indicating right while going through the roundabout then indicate left 90 degrees (assuming a 4 entrypoint roundabout) before your exit.

I dare say you are right, and I am happy with that, but the pic on the web site shows no flashes there for a while. The main thing is you indicate right now when you never before.

[Devil]

It works fine for nice simple 0, 90, 180, 270 degree roundabouts.

Gets trickier if you are entering at 6 o'clock, and the exits are 8 o'clock, 10 o'clock, 2 o'clock, and 4 o'clock . The 8 o'clock is OK, just indicate left. But what about the 10 o'clock. Is it straight through. If not what do I indicate? I don't want to indicate left as I enter, because then the car waiting to come out of the 8 o'clock will think I'm going down there and pull out in front of me. In practice I'd treat 10 o'clock and the 2 o'clock as both straight ahead . But Mr Plod could argue that they're not.

Yep, commonsense SHOULD prevail. Depends on the shape of the roundabout, mr 10 o'clock could be considered a straight ahead.

[SuperDave]

Just another question... can anyone tell me how the Restricted works... do they give you a mic/head set so they can tell you what to do, or do they give you directions and then follow you?

How they work you see if very simple. Firstly they take an middle aged women who has never driven a motorbike before. This women who is apparently able to decide whether you can ride or not gives you a few directions and then tells you to pull over once you have completed them. She then continues to do the same thing about 4 times and then it's back to the starting point where she, as the most suitable judge of you being able to ride a bike will write out your temporary paper restricted licence.

Don't be suprised if you have to pull over and wait for the testing officer because they are too slow to turn into the traffic flow and you leave them behind. The testing officer might also reprimand you for not indicating out of a circle which is nothing more than a stupid 1 metre tree poking out of the asphalt.

YES the restricted test is a load of shit.

[placidfemme]

How they work you see if very simple. Firstly they take an middle aged women who has never driven a motorbike before. This women who is apparently able to decide whether you can ride or not gives you a few directions and then tells you to pull over once you have completed them. She then continues to do the same thing about 4 times and then it's back to the starting point where she, as the most suitable judge of you being able to ride a bike will write out your temporary paper restricted licence.

Don't be suprised if you have to pull over and wait for the testing officer because they are too slow to turn into the traffic flow and you leave them behind. The testing officer might also reprimand you for not indicating out of a circle which is nothing more than a stupid 1 metre tree poking out of the asphalt.

YES the restricted test is a load of shit.

lol thank you

Where else in the world do you have to sit 3 different tests to prove you can ride a bike? Or even a car for the matter?

But it should be all good

[SuperDave]

lol thank you

Where else in the world do you have to sit 3 different tests to prove you can ride a bike? Or even a car for the matter?

But it should be all good

To be honest I have no problem with the graduated license system and the three tests. I do however have a problem with my examiner of my practical restricted test having no experience with motorcyles and thus being in no position to judge.

Someone on the site a while back commented and said that she was testing me to see if I knew the road rules well enough and followed them suitably to be granted my restricted. My response to this is that I thought I proved that when I did my class 1 full licence and passed first time.

Sounds like a money making machine to me

But yeah, good luck for it, just don't speed and you will be fine

[peterjdaly]

I was ent this recently. It arrived at the same time the law changed here, so I had a smile as wide as a wide thing when I pondered the insanity of traffic engineers worldwide. Have a laugh, I know I did.

[Skyryder]

Christ, wait until they change the give way rules to "Give way to left turning traffic". I almost got stung by that one in the land of Oz when I first moved over there. And the Aussies were so helpful in pointing out the mistake by judicious use of the horn.

There was talk of bringing that one back in but it has been shelved. Should never have been changed in the first place, but since this country is used for so many experimental ideas I expect it will stay that way.

Incedently is this roundabout law, In force in other countries or is it a kiwi first? Anyone know.

Skyryder


PS I think I may have found a defence that may be applicable on some roundabouts.

[James Deuce]

There was talk of bringing that one back in but it has been shelved. Should never have been changed in the first place, but since this country is used for so many experimental ideas I expect it will stay that way.

Incedently is this roundabout law, In force in other countries or is it a kiwi first? Anyone know.

Skyryder


PS I think I may have found a defence that may be applicable on some roundabouts.

It's in force in the UK, but the roundabouts there are usually much bigger and the drivers much more polite.

[zooter]

I dare say you are right, and I am happy with that, but the pic on the web site shows no flashes there for a while. The main thing is you indicate right now when you never before.

WTF. This is just confusing.
Do not indicate right when going straight or you'll go over someones bonnet and it'l be YOUR fault.
Do not trust that a car indicating right is going to take that path and not go straight into you, cause he might be Zadok in his cage and it'll be his fault but you'll be dead.