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    Well, I generally find that "Speed creep" doesn't take me much more than 10km/h over the speed I was doing prior, so I don't reckon I have anything to fear until they drop the walking level to 10km/h over.

    As to zero tolerance for drink driving, I'm all for that. I'd even be for drugs testing - especially for the likes of "P" - and a zero tolerance of that as well.

    I have no qualms when I see a copper waving the little box around at the checkpoints. If I've been drinking enough for a "Failed Youth" I generally won't drive/ride - and the only thing youthful about me is my attitude.

    Oh, sorry, that's childish, not youthful... (Had to say that before TonyB, Ixion or LiasTZ could)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer
    The problem is, most of the people in power are academics rather than REAL people
    I'm a REAL person. Just spent an awful lot on an education is all! And when I take over the world, I'll get sand mixed in with the white paint - and potholes will be plastered over immediately (and levelled off when done so that they don't sink or rise). And I'll get rid of the green paint on bus lanes too.

    Vote for Nomes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurygnomes
    Vote for Nomes.
    I'd vote for freakin' goblins if I thought they'd do a good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurygnomes
    I'm a REAL person. Just spent an awful lot on an education is all! And when I take over the world, I'll get sand mixed in with the white paint - and potholes will be plastered over immediately (and levelled off when done so that they don't sink or rise). And I'll get rid of the green paint on bus lanes too.

    Vote for Nomes.
    Ah votes. Don't agree with votes. I'm a Communist see (Did you realise that means you all have to give me your bikes? If they're any good that is. Cos Communism is about , from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. And you have to ability to give me the bikes, which I need. See it's simple. And now the ghost of Jock Barnes will come back to exact a terrible punishment on me ) .

    So being a communist, I don't reckon on votes. What we need is a good old revolution, where the downtrodden proletariat install me as benevolant and absolute dictator, and overthrow the corrupt bourgeois running dogs of the Imperialist war lords .

    Then we'll see some action .
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    What we need is a good old revolution, where the downtrodden proletariat install me as benevolant and absolute dictator, and overthrow the corrupt bourgeois running dogs of the Imperialist war lords .

    Then we'll see some action .
    Look, I've already been generous enough to allow Vifferman (based on his Traffic Policies) to be co-Dictator with me so if you want to go for a Triumvirate you'll have to submit an impressive portfolio and I'll consider you.

    More impressive than "gimme all your bikes", anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf
    Look, I've already been generous enough to allow Vifferman (based on his Traffic Policies) to be co-Dictator with me so if you want to go for a Triumvirate you'll have to submit an impressive portfolio and I'll consider you.

    More impressive than "gimme all your bikes", anyway.
    Oh, OK, here's me portfolio. Standard Communist one actually. Got a good referee too.

    Won't be a triumvirate though, cos there's only one of me. But you and Mr Vifferman can have the first two turns standing up against my special wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Aha - already we have the seeds of a good communist uprising, followed by a good old fashioned shoot -em - down.

    I prefer the ice pick method though.....
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    The press release.

    15 June 2005 Media Statement
    Law changes to improve transport safety and access
    The conclusion of the third reading of the Land Transport Amendment Bill is set to make our transport system safer and more accessible for many New Zealanders says Transport Minister Pete Hodgson.

    The main points of the legislation include:

    It is now illegal for those with convictions for serious sexual or violent offences to hold Passenger endorsements (Convicted rapists and murderers barred from driving taxis)


    Care workers specifically exempted from requiring a Passenger endorsements


    Clarification of the rules allowing operators of courtesy transport services to continue to do so, and


    Clarification of the rules applying to small electrically power vehicles such as mobility scooter


    There are also significant changes to the law applying to the worst speeders and drink drivers. From 16 January 2006, the Police will have the power to suspend licences at the roadside for 28 days for exceeding the speed limit by 40km/hour or having a blood alcohol level above 130mg/100ml (or breath equivalent). There is no change to the blood alcohol limit of 80/100ml (or breath equivalent).

    These changes to the law are designed to make transport safer and to improve access to it" says Pete Hodgson. "In the past, those with convictions for serious convictions had been able to apply to the courts for permission to hold a Passenger endorsement after they had been refused one by Land Transport New Zealand. The law will now specifically bar those with the most serious convictions from gaining or holding a passenger endorsement.

    "There has also been concern raised around whether or not care workers who, for instance, take older New Zealanders to the shops or to medical appointments, are able to do so without a passenger endorsement. All doubt will now be removed as they are to be specifically exempted."

    More detailed information is available at www.transport.govt.nz/current/issues/

    Notes to editors

    Drink-drivers and speeding drivers
    Police can suspend driving licences at the roadside for 28 days for exceeding the speed limit by 40km/hour or having a blood alcohol level above 130mg/100ml (or breath equivalent). Previously roadside licence suspension applied for exceeding the posted limit by 50km/hour or having a blood alcohol level above 160mg/100mg. This provision applies from 16 January 2006. There is no change to the blood alcohol limit of 80/100ml (or breath equivalent).

    A ' three strikes and you're out' approach for drink-drivers with a blood alcohol content over 80mg/100ml (or breath equivalent) who've committed three or more offences within four years. On the third offence vehicles will be immediately impounded for 28 days and licences disqualified for 'more than one year'. This means drivers will have to re-sit their practical driving test at the end of the disqualification. This applies from 16 January 2006.

    Taxi drivers and holders of a Passenger endorsement licence
    Taxi and bus drivers, and others with a passenger endorsement licence, will be automatically prohibited from driving in a passenger service if they are convicted of offences such as murder, sexual and serious violent offences. This comes into force from 16 January 2006 and will apply to previous offences as well as new ones.

    A limited right of appeal will be provided for persons currently in the industry where:
    · they have not been convicted of murder or sexual offences
    · their qualifying serious offence occurred more than 10 years ago
    · they have no other offences in the last 10 years that could have resulted in a prison sentence, and
    · the Director is satisfied it would not be contrary to the public interest to reinstate the person's passenger endorsement.

    Taxis will now have to display their cab number and information about their company in Braille. This new provision will come into force when a new Operator Licensing Rule is introduced.

    In key metropolitan centres (Auckland, Hamilton, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin), drivers will now have to hold 'Area Knowledge ' certificates for the entire metropolitan area they operate in, instead of the more limited area where their Approved Taxi Organisation operates. This provision will apply when a new Operator Licensing Rule is introduced.


    Commercial drivers
    The Act updates licensing provisions for commercial transport services and work time restrictions for commercial drivers.

    New 'chain of responsibility' provisions mean that someone who knowingly causes a driver to commit specified offences, may also be charged. The offences include work time, overloading, speeding and load security offences. The majority of provisions affecting commercial drivers will come into force at a later date to coincide with the relevant Land Transport rule. (Operator Licensing Rule or Work Time and Logbooks)

    General public
    Drivers can now be charged with driving offences causing injury or death in off-road situations. This includes dangerous, reckless and careless driving and driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. This provision comes into effect immediately.

    People upgrading from a limited or restricted licence, will now have to hand in their old licence when they receive their new one. This new provision, which applies immediately, is designed to help enforce liquor laws.

    Owners of electric scooters and bikes
    Motorised vehicles such as electric scooters and bikes, are now exempt from 'motor vehicle' requirements if they have a power output of less than 300 watts. This applies immediately.

    Note - The way in which the legislation is described in this press statement and notes to editors does not replace the wording used in the Bill as passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP
    Aha - already we have the seeds of a good communist uprising, followed by a good old fashioned shoot -em - down.

    I prefer the ice pick method though.....
    Ah , I can use an experienced specialist. Got a bit of a list waiting for the right man.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Blurdy hell. Bugger the changes to 140kph. Does THIS BIT
    Drivers can now be charged with driving offences causing injury or death in off-road situations. This includes dangerous, reckless and careless driving and driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. This provision comes into effect immediately.
    mean what it appears to. That could totally screw just about all off road riding.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    ITS SIMPLE DONT DRINK AND DRIVE , AND IF YOU SPEED BE PREPARED TO DO A RUNNER
    I'm with you Winja...

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    Hey John boy

    dont get me wrong - I worked in traffic control at roadworks and I have no time for people who speed thru - however I also have no time for the workmen who have had a 45K roadworks sign up on DOn Bucks Rd in West Auckland for road works on a new side road and for the last three months have never put up a WORKS END sign.

    Not all Road works are Gravel.

    FOr road works on the motorway shoulder a 50kph is posted - the road workers go home, the road is unaffected, a normal 100k is maintained 1 or 2 lanes over - where do you stand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    WANNA BET .

    So some of you guys in WINJ'S local set it up. Take him out for a cruise looking a cop, give WINJ some rope and let's see if he will hang himself.

    You've bragged about it often enough WINJ. Let's see you DO IT.

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    I totally agree with the alcahol ruling but

    Drivers can now be charged with driving offences causing injury or death in off-road situations. This includes dangerous, reckless and careless driving and driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. This provision comes into effect immediately.
    is absolute bullshit.

    I am also not happy about:
    Police will have the power to suspend licences at the roadside for 28 days for exceeding the speed limit by 40km/hour
    This will cause more people to do a runner, and there-by actually make the roads more dangerous for all involved.
    This means being caught going 110k on a learner motorbike license will cause either

    a) a runner attempt where one would not have been before
    b)or the rider walking for the next 28 days...
    or - PERHAPS c) the rider pulling over and getting off scot free

    Both option A and B are bad...



    It is now illegal for those with convictions for serious sexual or violent offences to hold Passenger endorsements (Convicted rapists and murderers barred from driving taxis)
    This i can also live with

    But i am still not happy

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    Its interesting to see who didnt know the original laws.

    I believe the 40 over bit used to be 50k over so not much difference.

    The offroad rule is mainly to stop boy racers going down the local river bed and killing people - happens a lot down here.
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