New rules from Aunty Helen coming

[Kickaha]

The offroad rule is mainly to stop boy racers going down the local river bed and killing people - happens a lot down here.

Bullshit it does,when's the last time and how many times has it happened down here?

But in saying that I think its a bloody good idea

[ZorsT]

Bullshit it does,when's the last time and how many times has it happened down here?

But in saying that I think its a bloody good idea

But wouldn't it include racetracks?

[Ixion]

But wouldn't it include racetracks?

Motocross ?
Enduro?
Adventure rides ?

[Lee Rusty]

kph over speed limit is it used to 160 then 150 going to be 140 - al in the last couple of years - it is getting to the 120 mark where a lot of people do ride - and it wont take long to get there

120 and walking before 2008 is my bet.

[Jeremy]

By the year 2050 you won't even be able to do the speed limit posted.

[ZorsT]

By the year 2050 you won't even be able to do the speed limit posted.

and as a result, more people will be running, i know that will increase my willingness to run by lots more than I like

Bad bad mistake on the governments part....

This will bite them on the arse
People will die, you can't stop that

[Kickaha]

But wouldn't it include racetracks?

Quite possibly and having recently been in a race where fatal accident happend I have first hand experience of how it is investigated

If I am doing a trail ride or riding in a race and someone is riding in a dangerous manner or under the unfluence of drugs/alcohol or cause an accident due to his/her stupidity I would have no problem with them being charged with an offence

I'd be willing to bet after the first person is charged riding standards would improve

[Ixion]

Quite possibly and having recently been in a race where fatal accident happend I have first hand experience of how it is investigated

If I am doing a trail ride or riding in a race and someone is riding in a dangerous manner or under the unfluence of drugs/alcohol or cause an accident due to his/her stupidity I would have no problem with them being charged with an offence

I'd be willing to bet after the first person is charged riding standards would improve

Perhaps, but given that the person making the call as to what is careless, reckless etc would not be a biker, but a judge or magistrate who has almost certainly never ridden a bike, let alone off road, do you really want to go there.

You are going to get motocross, track racing etc being judged by the standards of road riding since that is the only standard the judge knows about. There is not a separate road code for off road, so the "standard" road code will necessarily be applied. The motocross defendant was clearly careless since he did not indicate his intention to turn by means of a hand signal ( no indicators). And what about speed. 140kph is going to be deemed dangerous on the road, regardless of circumstances. Will it also be de facto dangerous off road ? Remember, these are not bikers making that call, it is old grey men, who are at least 200 years old, and regard anybody having fun as a capital offence.

[WINJA]

So some of you guys in WINJ'S local set it up. Take him out for a cruise looking a cop, give WINJ some rope and let's see if he will hang himself.

You've bragged about it often enough WINJ. Let's see you DO IT.

Skyryder

WOW YOUR A DICK

[nsrpaul]

WOW YOUR A DICK

wow thats funny , I was thinkin the same thing , but about you know who

[WINJA]

wow thats funny , I was thinkin the same thing , but about you know who

HEY THE BULLSHITERS BACK

[marty]

i guess they could just leave it at criminal nuisance and manslaughter. from memory, under the old transport act 1962, reckless could be anywhere, dangerous had to be on a road. they are probably just tidying up the oversight when the 98 legislation was passed. it allows for instances such as one when i attended a fatal in the bush between a motorcycle and a moutain bike, on a mountain bike trail. the m/cyclist was charged with criminal nuisance. maybe everyone who is at fault in a vehicle related death should be charged with manslaughter - that would make it easy wouldn't it?

[nsrpaul]

HEY THE BULLSHITERS BACK

love you too , ya big stud

[marty]

juast the thought of aunty helen coming sends a shiver up my spine...

[nsrpaul]

juast the thought of aunty helen coming sends a shiver up my spine...

a lot of you guys slag off helen , do you really think don brash would look after bikers , i reckon he would want even more cash out of ya
I'm voting labour , its the lesser of many evils