Power to weight restriction

[quickbuck]

If you're over 25 ... it's a year, yes? I'd keep it. By the time you're done pissing about ... selling one, buying another then your license period will be up and it'll be time to repeat the procedure. I also don't know if a VFR400 will still be inside the rules - they're kinda quick actually.

Dave

Um... 40kw for a tired one.... So long as it weighs 266kg, it should be right...
I think they are 45kw though.... So 300kg? Fat rider!

[Mikkel]

You are reading this thread,or has the wine taken over? The ACC and Mr Duynhoven are complaining,and are going to do something about it.That's what this discussion is all about - the proposed changes in regulations.

The wine took over a while ago (as in years).

I'm not complaining about what they are trying to do about it - as long as they give me approximately 3 months time to get my full I'm a happy camper.

There are, as most people on here are likely to agree, a lot of the "old rules" that make no sense. This new initiative makes an effort to improve these, and as such I think it is generally a good thing.

On the other hand I'm not caught up in religious denial - as such I must say I'm prepared to fight for whatever natural selection that is indeed left in this existance, going down the drain.

[quickbuck]

that's true Jim; but leaving the nice handlers to you, me and a few others in the know isn't such a bad thing.

I like nothing more than embarrassing litre sport bikes on 'gutless' good handling bikes.

Ditto, hence a 16 year old classic for me...

Okay, no handling either by todays standards, but even more embarrising to lord flash wad...

[quickbuck]

I hope there is going to be a serious revision of those aussie lams approved bikes if we are going to use that list here? It neglects to mention many many bikes we get over here.

I'm pretty sure they will Trouser.

You will be safe on your CB anyway

Great part of being here is we are actually spoilt for choice in some respects due to the imports.

I'm picking they will go through the same process as the aussies did, and get a list of all VINNED in the past 20 odd years, and put a Y or N beside it.

Cracked me up though, as you aren't allowed a TZ 250, but an RD350 is sweet?
Well... as said, if you want to chuck all your money into working your bike, then good luck to you...
It could easily happen now anyway....
As you said, Turbo the CB

[karla]

sure, it won't be an overnight drop because people will want to recoup as much as possible for their bikes. However, it will gradually reduce prices and there will be SOME instant bargains.

For sale, one barely used GN250 .... one woman rider, never taken out in the cold.

Would like to keep but more recent model is high maintenance and demands lots of attention ~

contact me for instant bargain .

[TLMAN]

Government announces
25 demerits for not wearing a helemt (huh - when was the last time you ever anyone not wearing one ?)

Funny you should mention that, I saw an Indian guy blasting down my street on a black R6 not wearing a helmut the other day!!!

[McDuck]

This should be fantastic. But the bummer is my 250 is now worth a little less than fuck all.

[Ixion]

For sale, one barely used GN250 .... one woman rider, never taken out in the cold.

Would like to keep but more recent model is high maintenance and demands lots of attention ~

contact me for instant bargain .

The Ginnys won't be much affected. people buy them becaus ethey are cheap and cheerful.

What will be affected are the 250s that people have paid a heavy premium for because they are bikes that could give boi-racer performance within the 250cc limit.

Now the boi-racers turned bikiboi will buy a larger machine and the hot stuff 250s will be a drug on the market


cos the sensible folk who buy for economy and easy to rideness won;t look at them (a Scorpio is still less than 4K new); and the bikibois wont look at them cos no matter how fast it is point to point , only 250 is total loss of street cred.

[Squiggles]

This will make it interesting, might just be able to snag myself an rgv again

I dont think it'll change that much with the cbr's etc still being the sportiest of the bikes (the current lams list is here but i bet its been posted already: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...iceriders.html )

Ill keep my $300 gn's, they aint going to depreciate. Might hurt the 250 tourer market, but the sports side will be relatively ok i think.

[Rogue]

I cant beleive it the govt has made a good decision for once

However I cant help but shudder when they say motocyclists have 10% of the accidents. Whats coming next?
Due to the ACC having no blame how many of the 10% of motocycle accidents are off roaders or caused by the inatention of a tin top driver ahh

Might be able to get me a cheep RS250 soon

[MaxB]

I don't know if anyone has thought of this but combining compulsdory t.p. insurance with a list of approved learner bikes is asking for trouble. Of course we can trust the Govt and big business not to fuck with the cost of biking and the premiums of compulsory insurance. (Tui ad).

All I know is that in places that have compulsory insurance it is more expensive than places that don't. Plus in places that have lists of approved bikes those bike prices are inflated to "fit" the market. A mate in Germany pays about $11k for his legal learner big single bike and $1-2k insurance. The derestricted version is $9k.

[Mikkel]

I don't know if anyone has thought of this but combining compulsdory t.p. insurance with a list of approved learner bikes is asking for trouble. Of course we can trust the Govt and big business not to fuck with the cost of biking and the premiums of compulsory insurance. (Tui ad).

If you can not afford 3rd party insurance - you should not be on the road in the first place!

We all make mistakes, fair enough if you want to gamble what YOU can afford - but that doesn't give you any right to damage MY property!

[Kickaha]

25 demerits for not wearing a helemt (huh - when was the last time you ever anyone not wearing one ?)

1989, I got a ticket for $50 for not wearing one

I am pretty confident that compulsory 3rd party insurance would solve a lot of the trouble that NZ has with regards to road tolls.

I'm fairly confident the insurance companies would shaft us on the cost of 3rd party

Indeed. What sane person would want an unreliable temperamental expensive to run 250cc

I would

Hope the govt eventually follow Aussie on the 'turning left gives way' rule. NZ adopted this soon after Oz. Oz repealed this 9 months later because it doesn't work, did NZ follow their advise........no

A rule I find quite easy to follow, but a lot of people don't seem to know how it works

If you can not afford 3rd party insurance - you should not be on the road in the first place!

Costs me a whole $27 a year

[Mikkel]

I'm fairly confident the insurance companies would shaft us on the cost of 3rd party

This is where the free market will save our asses... Costs might increase slightly - or they might decrease slighly. It's hard to tell - but one thing is quite certain, 3rd party insurance wouldn't go through the roof!

Costs me a whole $27 a year

Wow, that's not a lot. What are you insuring and with who?

[Bob]

The NZ government is proposing a raft of new legislation to reduce accident levels.

The measures including restricting the use of powerful motorcycles by novice riders and setting a three-year maximum validity period for all learner motorcycle licences.

Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven announced the following key proposals:

* Learner and restricted motorcycle licence holders would only be able to ride motorcycles which did not exceed a power-to-weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne and were not too physically large for rider;

* changing the Graduated Driver Licensing System (GDLS) to reduce the restricted motorcycle licence period by six months for riders who completed approved motorcycle-specific training courses;

* introducing a motorcycle-specific competency assessment option as an alternative to the restricted and full licence tests for riders that did an approved motorcycle-specific training course in the learner licence phase;

* setting a maximum three-year validity period for all learner motorcycle licences;

* removing the 70km/h speed limit restriction - which applies to learner motorcycle licence holders;

* introducing 25 demerit points for not wearing helmets but reducing the level of fine from $150 to $50;

* requiring daytime running on headlights at all times; and

* increasing the minimum time period motorcyclists over 25 spend on a restricted licence from six to 12 months.

Mr Duynhoven also repeated his view that compulsory third party insurance was needed.