Power to weight restriction

[CookMySock]

Seems like your only pro free speech when it suits your agenda.

I will stand up for YOUR rights to free speech until the fucking sky turns black, so back off!

Look mate, I already (publicly!) said I was sorry about that red bling and other shit too, but you are not going to stop crashing my arse are you ? I'm starting to feel quite hurt and angry about your personal remarks directed at me. Not at any time did I publicly attack you.

Steve

[Mikkel]

Mmmmm. I've had my 1F since '79 then to suddenly go to a 70kph restriction and not being able to be out after 10pm (hello??? at my age.....) just seemed stupid. (Obviously as long as I was tucked up in my cage it was still ok though). Having said that, it wasn't all that long to endure and I guess that the assumption that the skills you have from driving a car don't automatically make you a hotshot rider has some merit. Most people ignore the restrictions anyway and take the risk of being caught so it kinda ends up not really being an issue, unless you get caught eh?
p.s. no wise cracks about me being out "late" instead of tucked up in bed with a hot milo by 10pm! Anyway I have me full 1 and 6 so

Yes, that is exactly what I'm getting at. Absolutely rubbish. The curfew may make sense for teenagers getting into driving - but after that sanity stops.

HOWEVER - if I choose to ride after 10 pm on my 6R and had an accident I might get into trouble with my insurance company because I would be riding outside my license restrictions... One has to dig a little deeper than the "uh oh, I might get caught by the police" IMHO.

When it comes to road bikes the reasons NOT to ride 1000cc sportbikes are even greater: Without constantly breaking the law by a large degree or riding dangerously for yourself or others, those bikes are wasted on the street. How many times have you heard an R1 rider or Gasaxe rider say they only have fun when they are breaking the speed limits by massive amounts? I've heard it so many times I can't count em! In fact many of us have learned that less is more. My next bike will have about 60% of the HP my current one has and it will be more fun and actually faster on the most interesting roads.

+1 very good post!

Look mate, ... you ... arse ... .

Mate, do you want this to go international?

[Disco Dan]

Hmm ok... so the prices of bikes that are on this L approved list will most likely go up. Just like 250cc bikes are inflated now for licenses. But now these higher priced bikes are going to include 600cc bikes too.

In theory the likes of a ZXR250 - the price will drop, but I cant see many people who start off on a 600 'learner' going out and buying a ZXR250 after their next license stage...

It gives the dealers an opportunity to put the price up on more bikes in the showrooms and powerful 250cc bikes will lose their market.

Have I got this right???

[McDuck]

Have I got this right???

yessssssss

[SlowHand]

This is BS.
Those with the skills either ride one, or they realise there is actually no point in owning one....
Just because I have a 600 doesn't mean I can't ride a 1000.

I have a 750. It means I can't ride a 1000 cos I aint got one...

Whats your secret?

[scracha]

It seems to me that most riders don't have the nuts or the skills to move on to litre-class bikes, coz if they did, they would

??? Why would I go back to riding a bike that can't legally get to 75% of it's redline in 1st gear?

It seems to me that many litre bike riders don't have the balls or skills to ride smaller bikes properly, cost if they did, the would.

[mark247]

So what is going to happen to the dudes on the 2 stroke 250's and stuff on there learners licences now, they cant just make it illegal? There must be a change over period ya think?

[mattian]

Thats BS !! What about all those learner riders that own a 250 that isnt on the list? Will the government compensate them the price of the bike that they own but can't ride anymore? and.... good luck trying to sell it off.... who the hell is going to buy it?? I repeat.... its BS !!

[mark247]

Thats BS !! What about all those learner riders that own a 250 that isnt on the list? Will the government compensate them the price of the bike that they own but can't ride anymore? and.... good luck trying to sell it off.... who the hell is going to buy it?? I repeat.... its BS !!

this is exactly what im saying, there must be a change over period of some sort. Just like they did with party pills lol.

[Taz]

Glad I've kept my XT600. Still too nice a bike to sell. And there will be lots of parts available from the crashed learner XT's to help keep it going.

[Gubb]

I will stand up for YOUR rights to free speech until the fucking sky turns black, so back off!

Look mate, I already (publicly!) said I was sorry about that red bling and other shit too, but you are not going to stop crashing my arse are you ? I'm starting to feel quite hurt and angry about your personal remarks directed at me. Not at any time did I publicly attack you.

Steve

WTF?!?
When have I ever attacked you? I've never made any personal remarks. You made a stupid comment in another thread,Posts 69 & 80 that many people on here think is amazingly amusing. If your upset that your own comments are being used against you, that's not my fault.

Anywho, back on topic, At least the 70Km'h limit is going, it was largely ignored anyway. Although, other than wearing an L plate, there's no difference between 6L and 6R right?

[WelshWizard]

So what is going to happen to the dudes on the 2 stroke 250's and stuff on there learners licences now, they cant just make it illegal? There must be a change over period ya think?

Wake up this is New Zealand, the World Bank rates as a third world country and this government loves bringing in retro active laws, feel sorry for the guys and gals on their 2 smokes,as the value on them will drop as far as learners are concerned, watch out for cheap 2 smoke scooter shortly, any one for a classic Vespa, ( back in the 60's they were great for doing wheelees on, not much else as they were two slow up the top end compared to my Conny (700cc RE Twin for the youngsters here) but you had very little chance of doing a wheelee with the Conny even if it was 100MPH plus motorcycle.

[Ixion]

Most likely is that they'll have a phase over period if you have an L or R now and own a 'prohibited' model, they'll give you , in effect, an exemption for the minimum time you would need to get your full. Issue will be that selling the prohibited machine will be more difficult because the exemption will only be available to those who own one at the time the rule comes in.

[McDuck]

The way i see it if you are rich enough to spring for a rs250 you can buy a different bike. (coming from somebody who cant afford those sorts of bikes)

[Roj]

If the other party dosnt pay up you lose you no claim till they do.

Depends on the insurance company, if you are able to prove the other party was in the wrong, then you don't lose the no claims (at least that is the way my insurance comany as worked several times)