Power to weight restriction

[Coyote]

I haven't seen CBR250's and the like drop in price. The dealers seem pretty keen to keep the price up. The Ninja hasn't done any good. Here's hoping the law change will, but I bet the dealers will remain stubborn and keep prices up and just bump everything else in the learner bracket up so the 20 year old 250's are still an option.

[skidMark]

none of the bigger bikes on the list scream cool to me. i would still prefer a zxr or cbr

I had an FXR for ages, that was pretty comfy.

NONONO, not comfy, it has to be "cool" **eyeroll**

[skidMark]

Sooo

when is this actually coming into effect?

[2fst4u]

NONONO, not comfy, it has to be "cool" **eyeroll**

now you've got it!

[CB ARGH]

Sooo

when is this actually coming into effect?

There is no set date that I know of. From what I have heard it is "some time in the near future".

[Ixion]

There is a process that must be gone through first. Whether that will ahppen before the election (when all bets are off) is debateable

[King_Rider]

Couldn't find anything on the site about the 2-stroke thing, but why would they get rid of 'em if they are under the power to weight ratio?

Aprilia RSV250 and a Suzuki RGV250 are both way over the limit. Also the Honda CBR250 and the old Ninja ZX250R will be banned under the new law as again well over the power/weight limit. The two strokes that are under the limit will not be banned (but which ones are those?)

[PirateJafa]

Aprilia RSV250 and a Suzuki RGV250 are both way over the limit. Also the Honda CBR250 and the old Ninja ZX250R will be banned under the new law as again well over the power/weight limit. The two strokes that are under the limit will not be banned (but which ones are those?)

All 250cc bikes will automatically be legal to ride, except for a few named two-strokes.

[King_Rider]

All 250cc bikes will automatically be legal to ride, except for a few named two-strokes.

That is not correct, many of the current 250's will be over the 150 kilowatt/tonne limit. I have done the calculations for many of the favourites and they are over the limit, its not just a couple of two strokes mate!

[Ragingrob]

That is not correct, many of the current 250's will be over the 150 kilowatt/tonne limit. I have done the calculations for many of the favourites and they are over the limit, its not just a couple of two strokes mate!

Make sure you add the 90kg weight for the rider , I think you'll find CBRs and ZXRs and all are completely fine.

[King_Rider]

Make sure you add the 90kg weight for the rider , I think you'll find CBRs and ZXRs and all are completely fine.

Are you sure that the riders weight is included? If that is true then all my calculations would be incorrect. I need to read the legislation in detail and find out the exact rules as I was assuming the riders weight was not included.

[Ragingrob]

Are you sure that the riders weight is included? If that is true then all my calculations would be incorrect. I need to read the legislation in detail and find out the exact rules as I was assuming the riders weight was not included.

Yeah well it's been discussed a lot within these 29 pages and I think that is the general consensus. And Piratejafa is correct that all 250s are absolutely fine bar a few 2 smokers.

[King_Rider]

It doesnt affect me as I got full class 6 but I was working it out for a mate who is interested in getting into riding. I hope the general consensus is right.

[MaxB]

That is not correct, many of the current 250's will be over the 150 kilowatt/tonne limit. I have done the calculations for many of the favourites and they are over the limit, its not just a couple of two strokes mate!

BUT most countries that the govt. steal their transport ideas from have a learner bike list. Generally the rule goes something like "Ride what is on our list OR if not it must be 150kW/tonne."

Basically it does not matter how many bikes will be over the power limit. Bike makers will start lying about power outputs, measuring them in strange new ways and generally making a joke of any restrictions. Just like they do everywhere else. In Italy in the 80s they checked ther 12.5hp learner 125s and found all of them over and some making over 20hp.

[King_Rider]

BUT most countries that the govt. steal their transport ideas from have a learner bike list. Generally the rule goes something like "Ride what is on our list OR if not it must be 150kW/tonne."

Basically it does not matter how many bikes will be over the power limit. Bike makers will start lying about power outputs, measuring them in strange new ways and generally making a joke of any restrictions. Just like they do everywhere else. In Italy in the 80s they checked ther 12.5hp learner 125s and found all of them over and some making over 20hp.

Yeah true dat. One solution we were sizing up for him was just get some heavy accessories added to bring that ratio down! Dont know if you could get away with that one though. Maybe it would work for bikes that were only just over the limit.