Power to weight restriction

**MSTRS:Me** · 12th June 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by Breed777

No too up on my bike knowledge.... what does this mean for a GSXR250 rider on a L plate (Restricted by end of 2009)?

You will be fine. It will only be the high performance 250 strokes that are affected. Do not expect to be legal on anything much larger that has an R (for Race, that is) in the model designation however.

**Ixion** · 12th June 2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by jono035

As in actually voting on it as in if no-one has any objections it becomes law in some (relatively short) period of time?

And that bill had the removal of the 70km/hr restriction as a recommendation too didn't it?

Edit - yes it does include a recommendation about the removal of the 70km/hr learner speed limit and sonofabitch one of the recommendations is changing the restricted license time for over-25s from 6 months to 12 months... anyone know if the advanced rider skills course will still only knock 3 months off the license or will scale up to 6 months? It goes 6 months to 3 months for over-25s and 18 months to 12 months for under-25s currently...

Either way, it'll basically kick in days before I can get my full under the old rules no doubt...

Not according to the Parliamentary Order Paper. (which is the 'agenda' for parliament). Land Transport Amendment Bill (No 4) is No 3 for tomorrow, but that does not cover these matters, it is concerned with driving under the influence of drugs and changes to vehicle registration procedures. Moreover, the 70kph and 250cc limits are contained in a Rule, not an Act or Regulation. Changes to a Rule do not need to go before parliament, they can be signed off by the Minister - usually, after appropriate public consultation. Which hasn't happened yet. Don't hold your breath.

**Breed777** · 12th June 2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by Ixion

No. At present you can stay on L for your lifetime.

I think my learners has an expiry date on it though......

**Ixion** · 12th June 2009, 16:53

Originally Posted by Breed777

I think my learners has an expiry date on it though......

The licence, like all licences has a 10 year expiry. But at the end of the ten years you can renew it (also, like any licence) by paying (yet more!) money, and passing an eyetest. And repeat indefinitely.

**Jenral** · 22nd June 2009, 16:06

Originally Posted by Ixion

Over 25s now have to spend 12 months not 6 on restricted.

Sounds all good except for this bit.

**Jaffadutch** · 25th June 2009, 06:53

Hi, does anyone have an update has to how this went on?
Didnt it go before the MP's?

**Ragingrob** · 25th June 2009, 10:19

Originally Posted by Ixion

The licence, like all licences has a 10 year expiry. But at the end of the ten years you can renew it (also, like any licence) by paying (yet more!) money, and passing an eyetest. And repeat indefinitely.

Yo Ixion, I recently got my full, and the expiry date on my new license is 2014... What gives?! That's only 5 years

**MSTRS:Me** · 25th June 2009, 10:30

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

Yo Ixion, I recently got my full, and the expiry date on my new license is 2014... What gives?! That's only 5 years

Existing expiiry for a Class 1 licence?

**Ixion** · 25th June 2009, 10:53

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

Yo Ixion, I recently got my full, and the expiry date on my new license is 2014... What gives?! That's only 5 years

Just so. You have only ONE licence. It's expiry date is determined by the date you first got it. So, about five years ago you got a class 1L or 6L. Other classes just get added to the existing licence which retains its original date. There is no logic in this, because the justification for the expiry date (don't get me started on the blatant fraud of the "lifetime license") was to allow photo and details to be updated. Which they are each time you get a new class. So the expiry date ought to be up[dated also. But they don't. And mainly, only bikers are much affected.

**MarkH** · 25th June 2009, 11:26

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

Yo Ixion, I recently got my full, and the expiry date on my new license is 2014... What gives?! That's only 5 years

Will you be 25 years old when it expires? Because that is how the NZ licenses work! You will need to renew your license at 25, 35, 45, etc years old. If a 23 year old gets a drivers license for the first time he/she will be amazed to discover that within 2 years it needs to be renewed - but that's how it is done here in NZ!

Initial drivers licenses in NZ are valid for 1 to 10 years NOT 10 years - 1 to 10 years means from when it is issued to your next birthday that has your age ending in a 5. I am surprised that so many here did not know this.

**Bend-it** · 25th June 2009, 11:31

but the important question here is... has the law changed for learners?

**Ragingrob** · 25th June 2009, 11:46

Originally Posted by Ixion

Just so. You have only ONE licence. It's expiry date is determined by the date you first got it. So, about five years ago you got a class 1L or 6L. Other classes just get added to the existing licence which retains its original date. There is no logic in this, because the justification for the expiry date (don't get me started on the blatant fraud of the "lifetime license") was to allow photo and details to be updated. Which they are each time you get a new class. So the expiry date ought to be up[dated also. But they don't. And mainly, only bikers are much affected.

Damn revenue collecting!

Originally Posted by MarkH

Will you be 25 years old when it expires? Because that is how the NZ licenses work! You will need to renew your license at 25, 35, 45, etc years old. If a 23 year old gets a drivers license for the first time he/she will be amazed to discover that within 2 years it needs to be renewed - but that's how it is done here in NZ!

Initial drivers licenses in NZ are valid for 1 to 10 years NOT 10 years - 1 to 10 years means from when it is issued to your next birthday that has your age ending in a 5. I am surprised that so many here did not know this.

Yep I will be. What a waste! It should cost less for your license if it's gonna last only a few years dammit.

Cheers for the insight!

**MarkH** · 25th June 2009, 13:08

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

Damn revenue collecting!

Are you familiar with the saying 'He who owns the gold makes the rules'?

What this means in NZ is that the government is in charge of our tax money and they make up the rules. They changed the driver licensing from lifetime to 10 yearly and we end up paying - that shouldn't surprise anyone. Just like they charge us road tax when we buy petrol . . . then they dump some of that money in the consolidated fund to cover other stuff . . . then they approve a regional fuel tax to pay for roading . . . then a new tunnel is built and there is a toll imposed to help pay for it . . . how many times do we have to pay for the same thing? When the government comes up with another way to take our money who will be surprised?

Only two things are certain - death & taxes (and taxes and taxes and taxes and anything else the government calls it when they take our money).