Power to weight restriction

[Irontusk]

Will you be 25 years old when it expires? Because that is how the NZ licenses work! You will need to renew your license at 25, 35, 45, etc years old. If a 23 year old gets a drivers license for the first time he/she will be amazed to discover that within 2 years it needs to be renewed - but that's how it is done here in NZ!

Initial drivers licenses in NZ are valid for 1 to 10 years NOT 10 years - 1 to 10 years means from when it is issued to your next birthday that has your age ending in a 5. I am surprised that so many here did not know this.

Wrong.

I'm sure just about everyone else can correct this too, but my licence expires in 2017, about 2 months before I turn 29.

Ixion is also partially wrong, and this part actually confuses me a little more.. I was a bit annoyed when I got my 6L (and 6R too) and the expiry was not renewed, however it DID renew when I got my full class 1 in 2007.. so wtf is with that? Only car licences are important? Is this just more of the government sticking it in bikers(registration)?

The best example of this I have seen is a guy on here who got his bike licence 2 days before his old licence expired.. and guess what, he had to pay to renew it and all that bullshit. There was a thread about his progress on here somewhere, the minister or whoever it was didn't seem to want to hear about it of course..

[p.dath]

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The best example of this I have seen is a guy on here who got his bike licence 2 days before his old licence expired.. and guess what, he had to pay to renew it and all that bullshit. There was a thread about his progress on here somewhere, the minister or whoever it was didn't seem to want to hear about it of course..

I had a similar thing happen. I got my full bike licence about one month before my licence expired.
They didn't renew the licence, and I had to go back and full out *exactly* the same form I had filled out to apply for my full bike licence (did it one week later).

I rang the LTSA and complained and they said the law is very clear. You have to fill out a form to apply for a new class of licence, and fill out a form to renew your licence. The basis of my complaint was that it was the same form. However they rejected it, and said the same thing again.

I was a tad angry about it at the time. I also had to pay for submitting the same form again to renew my licence.

Very frustrating.

[Ixion]

Here's the actual law on licence expiry

Period of validity of driver licence

(1) A driver licence that is obtained or renewed under this rule may be issued for a period of 10 years except that,—
(a) If the person is at least 64 years of age but younger than 75 years of age at the date of the issue of the licence, the expiry date specified on the licence must be the date of the person's seventy-fifth birthday:
(b) If the person is at least 75 years of age but younger than 80 years of age at the date of the issue of the licence, the expiry date specified on the licence must be the date of the person's eightieth birthday:
(c) If the person is 80 years of age or over at the date of the issue of the licence, the expiry date specified on the licence must be the next birthday of the applicant that is a whole multiple of 2:
(d) If a renewed licence is issued under clause 67(5) with an expiry date that is more than 10 years after the date of the issue of the licence, the licence expires on the date specified on the licence.

(2) A driver licence that is replaced under this rule must be issued with an expiry date that is the same as the expiry date of the licence being replaced, except that if a replacement licence is issued under clause 74(4) with an expiry date that is more than 10 years after the date of the issue of the licence, the licence expires on the date specified on the licence.

(2A) Despite subclause (1), the Agency may extend the period of validity of a driver licence by not more than 1 year.

(3) The period of validity of a driver licence is not affected by the holder obtaining a driver licence or endorsement of any other class or type.

So, a licence is valid for 10 years. And adding classes doesn't change the expiry date of the licence. BUT --- when they introduced the current licence (don't get me started on "lifetime licences" grr ), there was a transitional clause . Cos the old licences were LIFETIME licences and had no expiry date. And they didn't want every licence in the country expiring at more or less the same time . So

Period of validity of licences issued under this Part

A driver licence issued under clause 113 must be issued with an expiry date that is—
(a) The anniversary of its date of issue in the year that the person reaches the youngest of 25, 35, 45, 55, or 65 years of age; or
(b) If the person is 64 years of age or over, the appropriate expiry date in accordance with paragraphs (a) to (c) of clause 60(1).

So, those who converted their old lifetime licence (swindling bastards! - the gubbermint I mean) their licences expire on each tenth anniversary of the n5th birthday after they got them. Those who never had a so-called "lifetime licence", theirs have a simple 10 year expiry date.

[MarkH]

So, those who converted their old lifetime licence (swindling bastards! - the gubbermint I mean) their licences expire on each tenth anniversary of the n5th birthday after they got them. Those who never had a so-called "lifetime licence", theirs have a simple 10 year expiry date.

Cool - thanks for the info, I am now better informed.

I do wonder though why it is that when you fork out good money to add a class to your license they can't reset the entire license to 10 years again (assuming that it wont take your license past your 75th birthday). Is it so that they can get more money off you sooner?

[jono035]

Cool - thanks for the info, I am now better informed.

I do wonder though why it is that when you fork out good money to add a class to your license they can't reset the entire license to 10 years again (assuming that it wont take your license past your 75th birthday). Is it so that they can get more money off you sooner?

Yeah, it'd be interesting to know the reasoning behind requiring the license to be renewed that doesn't apply to a new endorsement being added... Can't be to require an update to the photo or the style of license...

[MarkH]

My license expires in 2012 - I have Class 1, 2, 4 & 6. If I added Class 5 then why can't I volunteer to get a medical certificate, have my eyes tested and have a photo taken and renew early? When you get your new endorsement they take away your license and give you a temporary one, then they send you out a new license - if they are going to go that far why not just redo the lot and give you a new license for the next 10 years. This would be a sensible idea especially if you only had a year or less to go anyway.

I think they just consider that their rules are like eleventy times as important as common sense so there will be NO exceptions to the rules they have laid down!

[Richi]

My license expires in 2012 - I have Class 1, 2, 4 & 6. If I added Class 5 then why can't I volunteer to get a medical certificate, have my eyes tested and have a photo taken and renew early? When you get your new endorsement they take away your license and give you a temporary one, then they send you out a new license - if they are going to go that far why not just redo the lot and give you a new license for the next 10 years. This would be a sensible idea especially if you only had a year or less to go anyway.

I think they just consider that their rules are like eleventy times as important as common sense so there will be NO exceptions to the rules they have laid down!

Sensible? Government? CAN...NOT...COMPUTE...

[MarkH]

Sensible? Government? CAN...NOT...COMPUTE...

I guess that's why we have what we have rather than something that makes sense.

[s_devo]

...eleventy...

This may be a bit nerdy but I wondered if Eleventy was an actual word so looked it up but it wasn't in the dictionary but there are some fascinating references to it:

I wondered if it was eleven times twenty, or eleven times seventy???

Well it turns out that eleventy means 110 (one hundred [and] ten) also known as "eleventy", a term made famous by linguist and author J. R. R. Tolkien and derived from the Old English hund endleofantig. (Bilbo Bagins was celebrating his eleventy first birthday).

In mathematics 110 is a sphenic number and a pronic number - whatever that means and 110 is the sum of three consecutive squares, 110 = 5^2 + 6^2 + 7^2. Far out!

But wait there's more...

Eleventy is also the atomic number of darmstadtium. Darmstadtium formerly known as Ununnilium, is a chemical element with the symbol Ds and atomic number 110. This synthetic element is one of the so-called super-heavy atoms. It decays quickly: Heavier isotopes of darmstadtium have half-lives on the order of ten seconds.

Heavy man!

110 is also the age a person must attain in order to be considered a supercentenarian.

and, and, and the Honda XRM motorcycle with an 110cc engine.

So yeah, that is how thick and heavy the Government is. Any votes for a change yet?

[jono035]

Well it turns out that eleventy means 110 (one hundred [and] ten) also known as "eleventy", a term made famous by linguist and author J. R. R. Tolkien and derived from the Old English hund endleofantig. (Bilbo Bagins was celebrating his eleventy first birthday).

Yep, the first book of Lord of the Rings starts out with Bilbo celebrating turning eleventy one. Just went through and re-read from The Hobbit and on through the other day. Even though Peter Jackson did a pretty impressive job, there is still such an incredible amount of stuff that is cut out or changed in minor ways that I didn't even notice at first.

[Laava]

So is there any word on when the proposed capacity changes might take effect?

[CookMySock]

So is there any word on when the proposed capacity changes might take effect?

Permanently shelved as I recall.

With the current uproar ala ACC, I can't see it being a happening thang.

Steve

[sleemanj]

Sounds like it might be back on the table...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...to-change-Govt

The Government also intended to introduce a power-to-weight restriction for novice riders which would be consulted on through the select committee process.

[MSTRS:Me]

Twas always waiting in the wings...just needed to screw the country over ACC and then get the housing, travel and CC rorts in place

[James Deuce]

I think the power to weight idea is fantastic particularly if they adopt the NSW LAM scheme or something like it. It's going through a select committee process and we now know that we can have an effect at that level.

http://kiwiridermagazine.blogspot.co...le-change.html