Power to weight restriction

[Wally Simmonds]

I know it's not going to happen for a bit, but I'm reasonably happy I got rid of my 250 now.

[dipshit]

What a crappy news report TV3 gave....

If you didn't know better, the way they presented this implies that bikers are all unsafe road users and as such consume heaps of ACC money.

Well that happens to be a sad reality. Motorcycle accidents are disproportionally high for the number of motorcycles on the road compared to cars.

They reported that the incident rate for motorcycles has increased by 80% over the last few years and cost ACC something like 50million per year.

[quickbuck]

Me! But I'm approaching the problem from the other direction - it's a simple bolt-on kit to carry about 150kg of bricks and thereby bring the weight up to the required level.

What, 820Kg of bricks on a CBR1000?

[Nick from the nick]

Just be glad that they haven't adopted the UK system of 125cc and a poor 12bhp

[dipshit]

They reported that the incident rate for motorcycles has increased by 80% over the last few years and cost ACC something like 50million per year.

Here's their article...
http://www.tv3.co.nz/News/NationalNe...rticleID=50758

[Krayy]

The GN 250 has 130Kw per ton. It needs to be worked out wit the rider on it.

I wonder if they calculate this at the crank or at the wheel? And what the heck is this in HP?

Still a few bikes that you could kill yourself on it that list. All I can hope is that when they compile the list they actually talk to some people who know and ride bikes. Hang on, that's too much to ask..that common sense enter the equation from this govt.

[shingo]

I have a VTR250 for slightly over a week - and this happens.

Great. Just great.

I'm in the same situation, had my vtr since december and am wondering if i'm gonna keep it or not now. If the vfr400 makes the approved list i'm thinking they may be a good cheap alternative.

It wouldn't be so bad if they were to remove the curfew in place on L and R licenses. How is riding at 9:30pm any different than riding at 12am? It's dark at either time.

[McDuck]

I wonder if they calculate this at the crank or at the wheel? And what the heck is this in HP?

Still a few bikes that you could kill yourself on it that list. All I can hope is that when they compile the list they actually talk to some people who know and ride bikes. Hang on, that's too much to ask..that common sense enter the equation from this govt.

About 160 per ton if my math is correct.

[quickbuck]

What ammused me the most was this nice "New" high powered 250 in the article was actually a 1987 CBR250.
It was probibly on the floor for $6K.
In 1992 I wanted one at the high price on $5999!!!

If it is a modern high powered bike now, what was it then.

And sad fact is you can still ride it under the proposed law.

Crap article TV3.
Common sense approach government.. must be election year all right.

As said though, when the aussie bikers were first exposed to this they hated it.
I remember the magazine articles and the letters!

Now they embrace it.
Good to see our biker community (here) appears to embrace it too....
Well all except for those who have just bought a high priced 250.

[McJim]

I'm just glad I'm fat enough to ride a turboed Hayabusa on Nos on a learner licence

[yungatart]

I'm just glad I'm fat enough to ride a turboed Hayabusa on Nos on a learner licence

Sheeit!!!
Life must be good down there...I suggest less haggis and Whisky and more getting out on your pushie, ya big jessie!

[quickbuck]

Well, since I have lost 30kg in 2 years, now my CBR is de-restricted!

Yes, does awesome wheel-stands now.

Good thing I've had my full for 18 years!

[kiwifruit]

Well, since I have lost 30kg in 2 years, now my CBR is de-restricted!

great effort, congratulations!

[Mikkel]

Bollocks it does. So johnny V8 has a mid-life crisis and decides to buy a GSXR1000. Splat. That's who are making huge dents in the accident stats.

At least have the common decency and read what you quote.

I wrote that I was all for the restricted period - limited power and no-pillion are the only two restrictions that makes sense!
All I said was that people with a full license should be excempt from the learners period - indeed IIRC you get your class 2 license with no learners period.

I'd be happy to accept a longer restricted period if I could avoid the learners.

Oh, and get rid of that ridiculous curfew - it just makes no fucking sense telling grown ups that they can not ride between 10 pm and 5 am. Especially since it get's dark way earlier than that anyway...

[Ixion]

On a point of information.The kilowatt/horsepower figures used will be those quoted by the manufacturers (now those inflated claims will come home to roost , eh?). Similarly, the weight used will be the manufacturers dry weight claim PLUS 90kg to allow for a nominal rider and fuel etc. And then some simple arithmetic.

The rego label will show "Learner Approved" or some such words.

There will be provision for people to apply to have a model of bike added to the approved list.

it is extremely unlikely that there will be any exemptions.