Lane splitting, and I did search...

[mattian]

If we hadn't set about drawing as much adverse attention to ourselves in the past we probably wouldn't be feeling this much heat at the present.

yourself included? perhaps then you wouldn't mind paying off some of his fine for him then. Seeing as it is all of our faults.

[nallac]

Yeah the cops are starting to notice how many speeding tickets they are handing out to dickheads on bikes. Fucking hypocrite.

Hey leave Rossi alone...hes the only one who can speed and still be safe...
unlike the rest of us.......even with clean license's.

[YellowDog]

It is a bit annoying when you are showing respect to other road users whilst riding with due care and attention; that Mr Plod with his standard script decides to assult you in this way.

[Flip]

I am not aware of any specific regulation saying you can not filter past stopped vehicles, some cops don't like it but well basically they can procreate with themselves as they don't (yet) make the law. Its not as if you were passing on the left and the charge of failing to stay in your lane is as applicable as being charged with impeding the traffic flow while waiting in a queue of traffic.

Is there any reg that says motorcycles may not filter to the front of a traffic queue? No. I wonder if the snake is aware of the axiom "The law does not concern itself with trifles".

The reason you didn't get a ticket is the snake knows you did nothing illegal.

[riffer]

The reason you didn't get a ticket is the snake knows you did nothing illegal.

Bollocks - I have been done for the same "unsafe lane change" and have the ticket to prove it. I seem to recall at the time I posted it here on KB.

At the end of the day it's up to you to try and defend it in court if you don't agree with it. If more people defended tickets in court the cops would give out less of them.

[Berries]

The thread is getting a bit long considering the OP didn't in fact get the $150 fine mentioned in the first post. If the cop was certain it was worth a fine he would have given a ticket.

The issue as I see it is that you filter past a shed load of traffic to get to the front of a queue and then amble away at 51km/h. On a borrowed bike. I would have given you a ticket for that.

[yachtie10]

The thread is getting a bit long considering the OP didn't in fact get the $150 fine mentioned in the first post. If the cop was certain it was worth a fine he would have given a ticket.

The issue as I see it is that you filter past a shed load of traffic to get to the front of a queue and then amble away at 51km/h. On a borrowed bike. I would have given you a ticket for that.

care to explain what the ticket would be for??
also what does the fact its borrowed have to do with it?

[RideLife]

However there is provision in law for passing stationary vehicles as long as you do it on the right hand side of the vehicle, indicating right, and staying in the same lane (ie keep the lane marker on your right and the car on your left).

I am not yet convinced you have to be indicating when passing within the same lane.
Don't you indicate to change lanes? Not to pass cars.
So if passing a line of cars, while staying in the same lane as them (on their right), there is no legal requirement to indicate. Only if you feel the need to cross the lane line would a three second indicator be required.

Thus 'filtering' between stationary traffic, is quite legal on ether side of that broken white line that marks the lanes. But if in this process, you wish to move half a metre to the other side of the lines, you legally need to indicate that intention 3 seconds before the manuver. (Which is the Arse of the whole matter!)
Of course, once the traffic to your right starts moving again, you may no longer pass them on their left, within their lane.

[FJRider]

so ..... next thing I know i got a cop up my arse flashing his lights. going.. bad bad bad!
told me off big time and said $150 fine for 'failing to stay in a lane'

thoughts?

Begs the question ... DID you stay in your lane ... ???

or .... did you just tootle between the cars with no actual regard as to which lane you were in ... ???

[Usarka]

At the end of the day it's up to you to try and defend it in court if you don't agree with it. If more people defended tickets in court the cops would give out less of them.

Or if it was made a "legitimate" maneouver. Like in other countries that we so fondly go to for road safety ideas......

[sleemanj]

I raised this topic in the ACC council thread suggesting it could be something that they could do ie. legitimising the practice. Judging by the comments that the suggestion received it's a STOOPID idea!

I don't think it's a STOOPID idea - firming up the legislation so that it is unequivocally legal and there need be no more threads about this and when some Nobby of the Watch waves his finger we can reply with some specific reference which lays out that it's legal.

BUT, it's not a job for the motorcycle safety levy council or ACC to handle using our Motorcycle Safety Levies - there would be no practical measurable safety improvement that could be demonstrated from that (could even backfire, more safe to clearly prohibit the practice )

So yes, we should lobby to get it much better defined, but lobby the NZTA or at least Police, not the new safety council.

[steve_t]

i wonder if there are any stats collected by ACC about accidents involving a motorcycle that happened while the biker was 'filtering' through stationary traffic.
If people think it's unsafe, show them the video of the guy that lands on his feet after getting smashed into from behind

[Usarka]

BUT, it's not a job for the motorcycle safety levy council or ACC to handle using our Motorcycle Safety Levies - there would be no practical measurable safety improvement that could be demonstrated from that (could even backfire, more safe to clearly prohibit the practice )
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I see your point but I disagree. A reasonable percentage of accidents occur because of other drivers (not a majority, but still a reasonable percentage). I see this as an indirect way of improving this, buy legitimising biking - because currently there are lots and lots and lots of car drivers who think bikers are a law unto themselves.....

AS i said, just my thought and obviously my neurons are fried.... (actually right now they are )

[bogan]

i wonder if there are any stats collected by ACC about accidents involving a motorcycle that happened while the biker was 'filtering' through stationary traffic.
If people think it's unsafe, show them the video of the guy that lands on his feet after getting smashed into from behind

Or the US article where bikers were killed (iirc) and hospitalised when a trucked failed to stop.

[Flip]

It would be very easy for the authority to simply make a regulation that says motorcycles may not filter to the front of a line of vehicles.

I did notice on a recent trip to Orcland that the locals are very happy to queue in 2 lanes even when 2 lanes were not marked on the road. It actually surprised me in my rental when cars pulled up on my left hand side, some technically passing on the left.