Demerit points hiked for unlicensed vehicles

[nodrog:Me]

Guess can expect another round of 'safety' roadside talks when this comes into effect then.

Pisses me off when they go on about fairness, while I've got three vehicles that I 'have' to license so I (singular) can use the road.

You're the MAG man, sort it out for us please bud

[HenryDorsetCase]

hundred demerits to get the "Got to jail do not pass go, do not collect $200" loss of licence for three months still?

477 is the criminal rego fee for my scooter.

I currently have a clean licence. I can get caught three times in a year, still be ahead of the game money wise, and with 60 demerits.

Or go the full monty. chuck away the licence plate, dont bother with a reg and wof, and ride the racebike on the road. Yeah!1 Anarchy!!!

[sondela]

This is a copy and paste...

"Driving an unlicensed vehicle could soon see you banned from the road.

The fines for those driving unlicensed vehicles will be reduced and offenders instead handed demerit points, Transport Minister Steven Joyce has just announced.

He said the changes to vehicle licensing regulations will be a deterrent to those who try to dodge payment.

"We know there are people who would currently rather risk the fine than pay their licensing fees," Joyce said.

"That's unfair to other law-abiding motorists. Demerit points can act as a stronger deterrent than fines as repeat offenders will face the loss of their driver's licence."

If drivers got 100 or more demerit points within two years, they would be suspended from driving for three months. The current penalty is $200, which will reduce to $150 but with 20 demerit points.

From May 1 the NZ Transport Agency could require people to surrender licence plates when putting their licensing on hold. They could decline an application to put licensing on hold when a person had abused this right in the past.

"There is a segment of drivers and motorcyclists who put their vehicle licence on hold while continuing to drive their vehicle as a way of avoiding payment. These measures combined with the added threat of demerit points, send a strong message that the Government will not tolerate this," Joyce said.

"The largest segment of the licence fee is an ACC levy that covers the cost of road injuries. These people are on the road and face the same risks as the rest of us.''

[The Stranger:Me]

"The largest segment of the licence fee is an ACC levy that covers the cost of road injuries. These people are on the road and face the same risks as the rest of us.''

Hmm, what have we been saying for years? Put all (MV) ACC on fuel.
Given some ACC is already on fuel there is no increase cost to implement this, it should in fact result in a cost saving.

[willytheekid]

ohhhhh did ACC's revenue/rip-off plan back fire.
Now there trying to push this shit on us.....good luck Nick smith!(ya prick!)
COS YA NOT GETTING MY MONEY!! ( I only rego every 6 months since the RIP-OFF began-still feel im paying my share for the services offered)

20 points-pfft

worst case...looks like im making a plaster cast of my plate and making a spare in fibre glass/epoxy resin lol

Still can't believe they charge us more for less cover!

[StoneY]

Its getting silly now............ just too much focus on revenue....... this is an issue for BRONZ and MAG to combine forces on IMO

My Ducati is on exemption, because its on a showroom floor being sold. As noted in MSTRS post, needs a plate to get a WOF, needs a WOF to be registered...if we are expected to take off our plates for exemption periods how the hell do we get the WOF so we can re-register it for Summer, or once the 're-build' has been completed?

Time to go visit Stephen and have a chat methinks.
Wanna come for a Ride Bogan?

[bogan]

Its getting silly now............ just too much focus on revenue....... this is an issue for BRONZ and MAG to combine forces on IMO

My Ducati is on exemption, because its on a showroom floor being sold. As noted in MSTRS post, needs a plate to get a WOF, needs a WOF to be registered...if we are expected to take off our plates for exemption periods how the hell do we get the WOF so we can re-register it for Summer, or once the 're-build' has been completed?

Time to go visit Stephen and have a chat methinks.
Wanna come for a Ride Bogan?

Yeh, and the focus is only around cos of their fabricated shortfall. Time for a ride indeed!

[MSTRS:Me]

While you're at it, can you tell Joyce to drop the ridiculous 3 month minimum hold period too.
I can reg my car/bike for 1 month if I like, but if I put it on hold then want to liven it 2 months down the track, I have to pay for the 2 months it 'sat in my shed' ... ludicrous.

[Dave Lobster]

whoops.. repost.. removed.

[Reckless]

Yep everyone is doing what I'm doing!
Classic bike Rego on permanent hold! Road bike rego will be on hold for 3 or 6 months over winter (even if I do go for the odd ride)!
Where'as when The costs where reasonable I kept the lot rego'd all year around!

This bullshit won't even go close to fix the above scenario I can still do it quite legally with still no revenue gain to them in the least! Face it most of us don't have the bike as our only transport!!

That's what happens when you price yourself off the market!! The market rejects your business! I'll pay the least I can, anyway I can! Simply won't pay 3 or 4 times for the same risk!!

This new law won't fix the above! It just turns the cops into revenue gatherers (more safety checks) and makes us and general society loose even more respect for the cops that will have to enforce it!
About fucking time the NZ police force said enough is enough as well so they can go out and get real reward for their efforts by catching bike thieves, burglars and rapists.

MY rant take it or leave it

[riffer]

While you're at it, can you tell Joyce to drop the ridiculous 3 month minimum hold period too.
I can reg my car/bike for 1 month if I like, but if I put it on hold then want to liven it 2 months down the track, I have to pay for the 2 months it 'sat in my shed' ... ludicrous.

Have it on good authority that you can use a special form to change the relicensing date so you can actually relicense for one month intervals if you like.

Wife enquired about this at VTNZ yesterday when she relicenced her car.

[Bald Eagle]

Repost of figures from the Reg on hold thread.

It's not like they need the money FFS

The New Zealand Superannuation Fund reported gains on its investment nearly $2.3 billion above forecast. ACC and the EQC also experienced gains on their investments of $788 million due to strong equity markets.

Also, ACC and GSF experienced favourable changes in claims and the discount rate to calculate the present value of the future expected payments.

Those two factors resulted in a gain for ACC of more than $1 billion, $1.9 billion higher than a forecast loss of $853 million, and a gain for GST of $288 million, $144 million higher than expected.

[riffer]

This new law won't fix the above! It just turns the cops into revenue gatherers (more safety checks) and makes us and general society loose even more respect for the cops that will have to enforce it!

Well they need to do something. After all, National's all but eliminated violent crime if you listen to Judith Collins.

[riffer]

Repost of figures from the Reg on hold thread.

It's not like they need the money FFS

Oh come on now Paul. What about the money they blew on bailing out finance company investors? That figures going up faster than the national debt...

[nodrog:Me]

Have it on good authority that you can use a special form to change the relicensing date so you can actually relicense for one month intervals if you like.

Wife enquired about this at VTNZ yesterday when she relicenced her car.

correct, relicense for as many months as you want, but you can only put on hold for a 3 month minimum period.