Am I in the wrong?

[mattian]

Unfortunately, you admitted passing on the median. I see bikers doing it, and, its not neccasarily unsafe. Just realise that if you get caught you will get told off

[Robbie_]

Yeah, trouble is you get comfortable in that and then you get some twat who gets pissed off with you and goes out of their way to make it difficult for you by swerving out in front of you. Saw it happen again to another biker about four weeks ago.

Pleased to hear that.

I'm not being all pious about this as I admit to doing the same thing last week when we had 30 odd vehicles staggering towards a give way. I was my usual metre and a bit from the centre line and catching up to the traffic stream when bugger me, some twat in a generic Jap two door sports car raced up and passed me on MY LEFT to sneak infront of me before we caught up with the traffic stream! WTF I thought. I was a little miffed to say the least. Anyway we all stopped and then I noticed the traffic stream was well to the left of centre leaving an inviting and safe gap to pass them. Normally I wouldn't have bothered but out of anger I thought fu*k it and began passing. As I passed the guy in the sports car I got close and gave him a 'cheery wave' in front of his windscreen as I showed him how to really get ahead of the traffic. Felt good! Stupid to do anything on the road out of anger and on reflection if I struck the same situation would I do it again? Hell yeah! (If I was sure it was safe).

Oh Robbie. Enjoy your FXR. That's the bike I used to get back into biking nearly 7 years ago and it was a pleasant ride (once I got decent tyres on it)

Oh yes, I have been known to give a car driver the one finger salute when they have been, oh, not very considerate shall we say. Common sense is all that is need there. The FXR is a good bike, never misses a beat, just want something with a lot more oopmh.. 11 more months till I can get my full..

[Robbie_]

What bloody grammer test ... did you read what i said ... the cop was right ... you were wrong ... you even state it ... my summary was you did what you did cos you get away with it. Its when you don't that its too bloody late and he is proved absolutely correct.

Now deep breaths there bud..

[CookMySock]

Ah yeah you're not allowed to pass ON the median strip, over an intersection, or on the left of moving traffic, or cross a yellow no-passing line. Unlikely he will fine you for that since you seemingly passed the attitude test.

You can pass everywhere else though, and you should do it incessantly, and if the fuzz stops you tell them to go buck themselves off their high horse.

[Usarka]

He didn't have his ticket book on him so he said he will decide later on what is the most appropriate fine and decide whether or not he will let me have a warning as it was my first time in trouble with the police.

I'll decipher that cop speak for you.

"I have no fucking idea so I will have to go back and ask the guys at the station if there is anything that I can book you for."

[Berries]

In the wrong ? Quite possibly, but the kind of thing I do most days and I am sure many others do as well. If you are ever doing something that you aren't quite sure is legal, lane splitting, filtering, overtaking stationary traffic on the left or right etc etc etc, the only tip is to be extra vigilant for cop cars. If you stop a few cars behind them they can't do anything. Nip past one who is having a bad day because he missed his donut break and you may end up getting a talking to, regardless of the legal position.

[over5tayer]

You can pass everywhere else though, and you should do it incessantly, and if the fuzz stops you tell them to go buck themselves off their high horse.

i know you try to sound all legal while you pass everything on the road, but really the only way to pass something doing 50ish kph is by going at least 20-30kph faster - instantly making it illegal. Maybe thats why you leave your light on hi-beam all the time, you'll blind the cop thats lining you up in his speed gun sights

[chanceyy]

Now deep breaths there bud..

Bud !! Bud ??? ohh dear ..

[The Stranger:Me]

I didn't know this was a Grammar test too. I'm tired this is the first time I've been able to sit down all day. Not everybody are robots yah know and make mistakes.Oh well, if you get picky of such little things, I'm far from envious.

I think you miss the point. You admit you used it. Even 1mm is using it. The law says you can't use it for that purpose.
I know a guy nabbed for travelling 100mm on a yellow line. it doesn't come down to degrees - either you did or you didn't, and seeing you admitted it then you are in the wrong.
Now if you had claimed you went to stop but the guy behind you obviously couldn't without hitting you so you had to take the median you perhaps would have had an argument.

[BMWST?]

Hi all

If your being picky the tire was about 10cm in the medium strip next to me


Cheers.

Median Strip is not available to you,therefore your offence is using a lane not a vaoilable to you.You quite clearly admit to riding in or on the median strip

[steve_t]

You can pass everywhere else though, and you should do it incessantly, and if the fuzz stops you tell them NO CONSENT, NO CONSENT, NO CONSENT.

Fixed it for ya

[DrunkenMistake]

Yeah, I would be expecting a fine,
I try to make it a habbit of not doing anything on a median strip as there is always a slight possiblity that someone could turn out to a drive way or whatever, and not everyone uses their mirrors.
Filter by all means but you just have to think of certain areas as no go zones.

[sleemanj]

These "can I split" type threads come up so often, it's clear that riders are unclear, the police are unclear, the public are unclear... everybody is just "playing by ear" and there is little in the way of consistency by anybody.

If I was running things then for starters I'd allow motorcyclists to use cycle lanes at cycle speeds, that would resolve half the "splitting" situation on it's own, many of the roads that you want to split on in cities have a cycle lane which could be shared quite safely by motorcycles and scooters doing 20k's an hour or whatever. All most of us want to do is crawl down to the front, to save time, and in some cases save on overheating risk (and not just of the bike!)

And we'd be able to use Bus Priority traffic lights (that's a ridiculous rule in itself, sure you can use the bus lane, but you have to hold up the bus behind you if there's a B signal).

And median strips would be fair game for getting to the front of a queue if traffic was stopped and you travelled at a slow speed with your right hand indicator on.

And every police officer would get a little laminated card to put in their wallet with the rules!

[over5tayer]

These "can I split" type threads come up so often, it's clear that riders are unclear, the police are unclear, the public are unclear... everybody is just "playing by ear" and there is little in the way of consistency by anybody.
.......
And every police officer would get a little laminated card to put in their wallet with the rules!

+1

everything really needs to get cleared up... unless clearing up meant making all these things become set-in-stone illegal

[blonky]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...nsense-answers

Basically if you're doing it within reason (carefully on the motorway/ only past stationary traffic in town), police will generally turn a blind eye. It's all up to the discretion of the constable though, if he's having a bad day or your riding is erratic then expect a $150 ticket....