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    i left mine on the entire time i was on my learners, seemed bloody dangerous though, alot of tailgaters and stuff...made me want to remove it.
    the fines seem a bit messed when you go and get a massive one for not having an l plate but a small one for straying into oncoming traffic , which is more likely to get someone else hurt? the bike licensing system needs to be looked at if ya ask me, but some will surely disagree

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    Keep it on for a few more months magic marker! Once you get your restricted, you don't have to worry anymore.!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicMarker
    Don't think he took any demerit points, just gave me the ticket for $400 had nothing in the demerit part. The cop was a real dick aswell! Hopefully none was taken.
    im guessing demeit points are given for rash driving,etc..prob not for such things like not having an L plate or rego,WOF,etc...

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    L Plates sux

    The reason for the speed restriction I think was to keep inexperainced riders off the motorways as the minimum your allowed to drive on them is 80. IE scooters arent allowed on the motor ways.
    But $400 for not dispalying them is crap.
    People do stupid things no days to try and avoid you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoix
    The reason for the speed restriction I think was to keep inexperainced riders off the motorways as the minimum your allowed to drive on them is 80. IE scooters arent allowed on the motor ways.
    But $400 for not dispalying them is crap.
    People do stupid things no days to try and avoid you.
    News to me. Mr Lou Giradin said the mini mum was 40 the other day. Got a source ref for that ? And scooter are definately permitted, mopeds are not

    EDIT. Only legislation I can find allows the director to set minimum limits FOR SPECIFIED *LANES*.

    Road Traffic Rule - setting of speed Limits 2003


    6.2 Minimum speed limits

    6.2(1) The Director may, by notice in the Gazette and subject to any specified conditions that the Director considers appropriate, approve a minimum speed limit for a specified lane on a road, if that speed limit is safe and appropriate for:

    * (a) the numbers and types of road users, including cyclists and pedestrians, that use the road; and
    * (b) the number of lanes on the road; and
    * (c) the condition or class of the road; and
    * (d) the use to which the road is put; and
    * (e) any other matter relevant to public safety.

    6.2(2) A road controlling authority that is empowered by an enactment to make bylaws:

    * (a) may set a minimum speed limit; and
    * (b) must, when setting a minimum speed limit, do so in accordance with section 7 and with any conditions specified by the Director by notice in the Gazette.

    6.2(3) The Director may, by notice in the Gazette, remove a minimum speed limit.



    any police persons able to confirm the 40kph or 80kph minimum speed ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez
    Anyone on an L plated bike with a full m/c licence been pulled over?
    Yeah,years ago in Hamilton I was giving one of my brothers a ride back to AK.
    He didn't have his full licence an I did so I rode the bike,AS YOU BLOODY WOULD.The cop didn't ticket me but I got a big lecture that was total BS.
    One of the few times I've ridden away thinking "what a bloody wanker"
    Being pulled over I had no issue with,the line of crap he came out with was just bull.

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    Its 40kph.
    I saw it on TV so it must be true.

    The part of the motorway between the city and the bridge has a variable speed limit, which i've seen below 80kph.

    EDIT: Auckland city, not Helensville city.
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    I always Thort on motorways, If you are obstructing or holding up traffic you are either in the wrong lane or going too slow, which is an offence.

    Not that you'd beleive it when you see these arsholes who hog the right lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoix
    The reason for the speed restriction I think was to keep inexperainced riders off the motorways as the minimum your allowed to drive on them is 80. IE scooters arent allowed on the motor ways.
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    Maybe Scumdog may have a slant on this. I've had an argument with someone else on this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raster
    I always Thort on motorways, If you are obstructing or holding up traffic you are either in the wrong lane or going too slow, which is an offence.

    Not that you'd beleive it when you see these arsholes who hog the right lane.
    Yes, that is definately so. In theory at least (and I believe it has, rarely, happened in practice) you can get a ticket for unreasonably impeding other traffic. But that is for impeding, or inconsiderate driving, not specificially for un-exceeding (yes Mr Hitcher, I know there is no such word, but how else do I put it) a minimum speed limit.

    But I don't think there is a speed at which you get a ticket simply for going too slow. i.e. , suppose there is no other traffic at all, to be held up, and I go along the motorway at 30kph. Can I get a ticket for going too slow - not holding anyone up, just going too slow (assuming that it would be practcial to go faster - hah, obviously not an Auckland motorway)
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    My Wife got pulled up for impeding traffic after coming on from west to southern(comes in on right hand lane), took too long to pull over to left lane. Just got a warning though, must have been the dress she was wearing at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raster
    Maybe Scumdog may have a slant on this. I've had an argument with someone else on this subject.
    Sorry squire, can't help (no motorways where I work!) at the moment but will try to find out when I'm back at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Sorry squire, can't help (no motorways where I work!) at the moment but will try to find out when I'm back at work.
    Wondered that, but thort you might be able to help out.

    I guess there are some good cops out there.
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    Arrow Bummer.

    I used to have one of those L plates on the back of my XR as a teenager. Used to snap it on a very regular basis and onle have the plastic portion on the number plate. I was allways just told to get a new one. I guess things just have changed and the coppers are really money hungrey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    Yes, that is definately so. In theory at least (and I believe it has, rarely, happened in practice) you can get a ticket for unreasonably impeding other traffic. But that is for impeding, or inconsiderate driving, not specificially for un-exceeding (yes Mr Hitcher, I know there is no such word, but how else do I put it) a minimum speed limit.

    But I don't think there is a speed at which you get a ticket simply for going too slow. i.e. , suppose there is no other traffic at all, to be held up, and I go along the motorway at 30kph. Can I get a ticket for going too slow - not holding anyone up, just going too slow (assuming that it would be practcial to go faster - hah, obviously not an Auckland motorway)
    Yes Mr Ixion you can. A MOT colleague booked a tractor for NOT exceeding 40 km/h on the South M/Way. It wasn't for inconsiderate driving and the charge stuck. I vaguely recall it was defended.
    It may be that the minimum has been rescinded, but I doubt it.
    While I was driver testing I know of people being failed for driving too slow on motorways.
    Speed doesn't kill people.
    Stupidity kills people.

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