bike no go. help

[ajturbo]

get a BIG hammer, long handled one is better,

stand back with safty glasses, and whack the demons away.. aim for engine...

[Drew]

What the F%#& have I done and how can i fix it. Any ideas what could be wrong?

When you pulled the plugs out, did you take off the tank? cos it sounds to me like it aint getting gas, (ran like shit, missing, and now it wont go.) Whack the tank back off, and check the vacume hose is where it should be.

[poorbastard]

get a BIG hammer, long handled one is better,

stand back with safty glasses, and whack the demons away.. aim for engine...

Don't tempt me im geting frigin close to seeing how it will withstand my car rolling down the hill towards it which also isnt bloody well going

[Velox]

I know this isn't hugely inciteful but I reckon try swapping the leads around again. When I was doing mine a while back I forgot the order and had "issues" trying to sort it out - had all the symptoms that yours sounds like it has. I was sure that I'd put all the leads back on the right ones but it turned out I hadn't. So yeah - I reckon try again. Boring advice but it might save ripping out hair and chucking more $ at a bike shop.

[poorbastard]

I know this isn't hugely inciteful but I reckon try swapping the leads around again. When I was doing mine a while back I forgot the order and had "issues" trying to sort it out - had all the symptoms that yours sounds like it has. I was sure that I'd put all the leads back on the right ones but it turned out I hadn't. So yeah - I reckon try again. Boring advice but it might save ripping out hair and chucking more $ at a bike shop.

Cheers Ill try again tomorrow. Think Groomer is going to come and have a look at it for me hopefully he will know what the hell is wrong with it if its not goin by then.

[GROOMER]

I fixed it from the comfort of my desk at work
haha. All sorted..had leads on wrong.

[Velox]

I fixed it from the comfort of my desk at work
haha. All sorted..had leads on wrong.

Yep - sounds like the lesser-spotted lead swapping gremlin has reared its head again. It switches them over when you're not looking, so you think that you've already tried every possible combination. At least you outwitted it though and there's nothing wrong with the bike!

[GROOMER]

Yep - sounds like the lesser-spotted lead swapping gremlin has reared its head again. It switches them over when you're not looking, so you think that you've already tried every possible combination. At least you outwitted it though and there's nothing wrong with the bike!

Yeah lucky I wasn't there in person, or I woulda given that gremlin a fair beating!

[poorbastard]

I fixed it from the comfort of my desk at work
haha. All sorted..had leads on wrong.

Thanks heaps Groomer. Im riding again . I'll rember to label things next time.

[poorbastard]

Yep - sounds like the lesser-spotted lead swapping gremlin has reared its head again. It switches them over when you're not looking, so you think that you've already tried every possible combination. At least you outwitted it though and there's nothing wrong with the bike!

Gremlin......... Yea thats right it was the gremlins fault not mine

Bloody gremlins I oughta teach them a thing or two.

[DingDong]

glad to hear it all good groomer... your a nice guy

[FlyingDutchMan]

Isn't the firing order on all inline 4's 1-3-4-2? Anyway, most in-line motorcycles seem to use the 'wasted spark' technique when firing, which renders the firing order pointless. It goes 1&4 then 2&3 and back to 1&4 etc. Saves money on coils - cylinders 1&4 fire at the same time, every crank rotation, as do 2&3. So swapping the leads for 2&3 shouldn't have any effect.

/ramble

I hope you could get the gist of that...

[Ixion]

Isn't the firing order on all inline 4's 1-3-4-2? Anyway, most in-line motorcycles seem to use the 'wasted spark' technique when firing, which renders the firing order pointless. It goes 1&4 then 2&3 and back to 1&4 etc. Saves money on coils - cylinders 1&4 fire at the same time, every crank rotation, as do 2&3. So swapping the leads for 2&3 shouldn't have any effect.

/ramble

I hope you could get the gist of that...

Almost all inline fours use 1342. Except the ford E93A which just HAD to be different and use 1243.

But the "spark on every TDC" is not so universal. And if it isn't you still need to be sure that the spark is occuring on the compression stroke and not the exhaust stroke.

Marking the leads is always a good idea. I use those little plastic tags that they use to seal bread bags. Free, indestructable and simple.

[GROOMER]

Isn't the firing order on all inline 4's 1-3-4-2? Anyway, most in-line motorcycles seem to use the 'wasted spark' technique when firing, which renders the firing order pointless. It goes 1&4 then 2&3 and back to 1&4 etc. Saves money on coils - cylinders 1&4 fire at the same time, every crank rotation, as do 2&3. So swapping the leads for 2&3 shouldn't have any effect.

/ramble

I hope you could get the gist of that...

Correct, but Mr. poorbastard had them 1&3, 2&4. There lies the problem.
LH coil fires 1&4 at the same time, and RH coil fires 2&3.

[Pixie]

Isn't the firing order on all inline 4's 1-3-4-2? Anyway, most in-line motorcycles seem to use the 'wasted spark' technique when firing, which renders the firing order pointless. It goes 1&4 then 2&3 and back to 1&4 etc. Saves money on coils - cylinders 1&4 fire at the same time, every crank rotation, as do 2&3. So swapping the leads for 2&3 shouldn't have any effect.

/ramble

I hope you could get the gist of that...

Good points,though it's less confusing for the less knowledgable to say the plugs spark in pairs 1&4 2&3 One of each pair of cylinders being on its exhaust stroke,i.e. the " wasted spark"