HD has finally sorted the water cooling issue

[The Lone Rider]

Buell was not making the profit that hogs were

FYI

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...10#post1348310

[avgas]

Buell was not making the profit that hogs were, I'd have dropped it like a hot rock too. And have you seen what Eric Buell came up with when he wasn't forced to use a Harley motor? The dude is clearly out of his friggin mind.

Not denying any of that.
My comment was on "HOW" they killed Buell.
Not that Erik would have let it die any better. But the least they could have done is first get Erik out and if that didn't work sell the whole lot to someone else.

[Big Dave]

Not denying any of that.
My comment was on "HOW" they killed Buell.
Not that Erik would have let it die any better. But the least they could have done is first get Erik out and if that didn't work sell the whole lot to someone else.

Further proof.

[popelli]

Hate to tell you this...but you're talking utter shit.

really ?

evo has a far better reputation than any other motor hd ever made

[Crasherfromwayback]

really ?

evo has a far better reputation than any other motor hd ever made

From who? Evo owners? Bit like how Shovel owners tell all and sundry how the shovel is the best engine they've made...

[avgas]

Further proof.

Kinda sad ain't it.
Imagine the Ducati bought britten. Then shut down the factory and there were skips of britten's lying outside the factory.

Those skips would empty immediately.....but more importantly people all over the world would cry bloody murder.

I know that Mac Motorcycles begged and pleaded to buy the Blast motor tools and patents off Harley, now they are having to use a Yamaha watercooled.

[BIG DOUG]

Hey pete my shovel is bloody reliable,I'm riding it to the speedway gran prix in auckland how are you getting there(plane maybe?)lol

[misterO]

My first Harley was a 1977 FLH. Man, it looked fantastic and sounded great. It also vibrated every screw loose on every ride and sprayed a film of oil on my girlfriend's legs. She was not impressed. Unfortunately, looking good was all it was good for because more often than not it didn't go anywhere (which kinda sucked because I needed to ride it to get to work to make the money to pay it off). There ya go- an honest assessment from a (ex) shovelhead owner.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hey pete my shovel is bloody reliable,I'm riding it to the speedway gran prix in auckland how are you getting there(plane maybe?)lol

Hey Doug. Did you ever find your number plate/tail light that vibrated off your Shovel and fucked off?

[popelli]

From who? Evo owners? Bit like how Shovel owners tell all and sundry how the shovel is the best engine they've made...

the shovel did hold the land speed record for quite a while, hd offered a lot of money for somebody to go faster on an evo but nobody took them up on it.

for the info I have a pan, shovel iron head and a evo - evo is far and away the best motor for power and reliability, its is also bland and boring

also have a ducati for when I want to get somewhere quick, but my 255k evo is still more reliable and less problematic than a 5k ducati

[BIG DOUG]

It didn't vibrate off,it was an engineering design fault in my design that caused it to break and catapult it at a great rate of knots into the undergrowth.a redesigned part is now on there and has caused no probs since

[Crasherfromwayback]

the shovel did hold the land speed record for quite a while, hd offered a lot of money for somebody to go faster on an evo but nobody took them up on it.

for the info I have a pan, shovel iron head and a evo - evo is far and away the best motor for power and reliability, its is also bland and boring

also have a ducati for when I want to get somewhere quick, but my 255k evo is still more reliable and less problematic than a 5k ducati

Yeah well the power pulses of an HD makes for good traction on salt.

I was in Nashville a few years ago at an HD Dealer conference and Willy G was saying that seeing as the twin cam was so bad they're going back to the knuckle.

[popelli]

I was in Nashville a few years ago at an HD Dealer conference and Willy G was saying that seeing as the twin cam was so bad they're going back to the knuckle.

If only that was true and they were going to reintroduce the knuckle, unfortunately there are emissions controls that effectively prevent this from happening and force the introduce of "clean" motors that are not necessalily an improvement over their predecessors

[Drew]

If only that was true and they were going to reintroduce the knuckle, unfortunately there are emissions controls that effectively prevent this from happening and force the introduce of "clean" motors that are not necessalily an improvement over their predecessors

Bare with me here, this will go somewhere...I think.

I know Harley riders aren't all about the power, (which has always left me wondering why almost none get left standard), but isn't it better to have a more efficient motor? The best way a manufacturer can reduce emissions, is to create a motor that burns as much of the fuel in the combustion chamber as possible.

Why don't Harley then chuck the cams up top? If ya think about it, using a very similar shaped head as the knuckle it is possible that at first glance most people wouldn't spot it.

[Scouse]

Why don't Harley then chuck the cams up top? If ya think about it, using a very similar shaped head as the knuckle it is possible that at first glance most people wouldn't spot it.

They do in somthing called the Vrod.