TV1 TONITE -minibikes legality reviewed

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 12:54

Originally Posted by Waylander

I still get a good laugh when the minichoppers that hang out at the gas station up the hill from me try and pretend they are one real bikes. I just laugh at them everytime I fill up. Pissed them off one day when I told them my weed eater is louder and has more power than thier bikes. (don't really know about the power but sure is louder

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Got a half decient scrub cutter in the garage. I recond these miniwhateverthefuckyouwant2callthem would shit their undies if we put the motor from the scrub cutter into one of those stupid things (sorry I cant call them a bike, maybe a bi?).

**Brett** · 22nd July 2005, 13:13

The amount of times that i have ridden up to a set of lights and one of these little shit bikes has pulled up next to me and revved just cracks me up. I have had some good laughs at their expense!

Racing the mini sports bikes sounds like fun...I would be keen to have a go.

On the road tho...different story, you just can't see the pricks. The amount of people riding them with no gear just astounds me...they must figure that since the bikes are not 'real' motorbikes, that the danger isn't the same...wait till a car takes them out in a T bone at 80kph..they will know about it then.

**Ixion** · 22nd July 2005, 13:22

I don't object to them , per se. They've got two wheels and power.

I do object to the fact that they are flouting so many of the safety rules (not to mention common sense). And the way they can evade compliance etc.

Surely that whole "ride a moped on a car licence" thing is a pointless historical relic ? What justification can be brought forward for it nowdays ? Though, I'm certain most of the ones I see don't have any sort of license.

And why are the Police happy to (apparently) trun a blind eye to their antics.

**shadow** · 22nd July 2005, 15:30

They are more fecking gay than a scooter. Only a toal pillick who cannot handle a proper bike would actually be dumb enough to put one onto the road. As for racing them, I can't understand for one why a full grown adult would do this. Children yes, I can understand that also. But a teenager or full grown adult, thats just gay also...

maybe you should have have ago you might be suprised how full on they are on the proper track great fun. gave me the confidence to get knee down on road. they are great fun shame more people arent useing them for their proper purpose not for the road but small race track. They race every monday in chch except school holidays $25 at moorehouse ave gokart track. AS for (toatal pillick who cannot handle a proper bike) hav a go, hey hook a wheelie make sure you have some good gear for when it spits you off before you even know where you fucked up

**inlinefour** · 22nd July 2005, 18:59

Originally Posted by shadow

They are more fecking gay than a scooter. Only a toal pillick who cannot handle a proper bike would actually be dumb enough to put one onto the road. As for racing them, I can't understand for one why a full grown adult would do this. Children yes, I can understand that also. But a teenager or full grown adult, thats just gay also...

maybe you should have have ago you might be suprised how full on they are on the proper track great fun. gave me the confidence to get knee down on road. they are great fun shame more people arent useing them for their proper purpose not for the road but small race track. They race every monday in chch except school holidays $25 at moorehouse ave gokart track. AS for (toatal pillick who cannot handle a proper bike) hav a go, hey hook a wheelie make sure you have some good gear for when it spits you off before you even know where you fucked up

Would I want to ride a mini turd around a perfectly good track when I can ride around on a perfectly good motorcycle. I'll be putting the $$$ I DON'T spend on a mini turdster toward a CBR600RR or the ZXR 636 thanks

**shadow** · 22nd July 2005, 19:36

Originally Posted by inlinefour

Would I want to ride a mini turd around a perfectly good track when I can ride around on a perfectly good motorcycle. I'll be putting the $$$ I DON'T spend on a mini turdster toward a CBR600RR or the ZXR 636 thanks

600s be awesome to own as well, also good bikes to learn heaps on and go hard on track. as for me i still think mini moto arent a waste of coin,and are welcome in my garage. not hard to have both they dont cost much. dosnt hurt to open your eyes to differant types of riding whether it be supermotard bucket or supersport etc they all have lots of differant skills and a heap of fun to offer

**skidMark** · 22nd July 2005, 19:46

Originally Posted by Waylander

BAHAHA How bout I just hook my pushie up to my Virago and ride all over my yard. Nah, The Beast is too good for that. Maybe the Rebel... nah still too good and would turn my yard to mud. minnichop it is lol.

No offence mate but come on, they are just silly. You've got areal bike now so I hope you're riding that as a comuter rather than the mini.

gotta finish it first lol

but also ive spent alot of money buying my mini if they banned it i can't sell it no1 will buy it if they can't register it....

but theres no way they can bring new laws into effect and take my road legal one thats already registered off the road can they?

**skidMark** · 22nd July 2005, 19:49

lol my 1ns bigger than a mini chopper...don't hate me tho just hate my minibike

ps. u mock my minibike i aint gunna b happy

**FROSTY:Me** · 22nd July 2005, 23:40

Originally Posted by markauckland

gotta finish it first lol

but also ive spent alot of money buying my mini if they banned it i can't sell it no1 will buy it if they can't register it....

but theres no way they can bring new laws into effect and take my road legal one thats already registered off the road can they?

I can see no reason why not.But as I understand it your MIni is like the old honda monkey bikes--the forks work -the brakes work and it actually has a charging system for the lights.
GUYS -Keep this in mind-with the current fuel crisis we as bikiers are in a position to gain heaps. Think this situation through.
Mr joe average hates busses but cant afford to drive his car to work.
So he buys a scooter (a real one not a mini chopper) He can ride it legally on his car licence. Now there may be 100 joe averages--maybee 5 of em will get the biking bug -increased bike sales means better product range for us.
Second spin off -drivers or at least some drivers will be more carefull around bikes -they are now aware of us when driving their wife and 2.5 children around.
This Is why I'm keen to see the law cleaned up --and pronto

**Lou Girardin** · 23rd July 2005, 08:44

Don't knock the moped on a car licence rule guys. Anything that'll encourage a cager to get out of his car isn't bad.

**FROSTY:Me** · 23rd July 2005, 09:51

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Don't knock the moped on a car licence rule guys. Anything that'll encourage a cager to get out of his car isn't bad.

Exactly the reason I for one want those death traps off the road. My concern is the old "tarred with the same brush "issue.
Imagine MRS joe average 2.5 kids when her hubbie says Ohhh I think Ill buy a scooter to commute on -Just after a couple of brainless troggs have wiped themselves out on those chopper/scooter things.
If I was her Id say -"over my dead body sunshine"
The average cager wont differenciate between a real scooter and the choppers.

**Ixion** · 23rd July 2005, 10:07

Originally Posted by FROSTY

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GUYS -Keep this in mind-with the current fuel crisis we as bikiers are in a position to gain heaps. Think this situation through.
Mr joe average hates busses but cant afford to drive his car to work.
So he buys a scooter (a real one not a mini chopper) He can ride it legally on his car licence. Now there may be 100 joe averages--maybee 5 of em will get the biking bug -increased bike sales means better product range for us.
Second spin off -drivers or at least some drivers will be more carefull around bikes -they are now aware of us when driving their wife and 2.5 children around.
This Is why I'm keen to see the law cleaned up --and pronto

Thats a good point. But, how many Joe's will end up coming off (probably not too badly) and (a) give it away, and (b) reinforce the "bikes - stupid dangerous things , I knew this guy Joe, thought he'd be smart save some money on gas, bought a motorbike, and nows he's a vegetable blah blah"

Driving a car doesn't really teach you anything about riding a bike, or a scooter.

Also, I don't see many Joe's managing with a 50cc scooter. Most people have a fair distance to go to work. Most of the 50cc's I see around are students or inner city dwellers (no car parking) . For "ride to work" commuting most people are going to need more power.

I guess maybe if I were dictator (WHICH I WILL BE ! - I'm a Communist, see, just wait until I get this revolution thing sorted), I'd say car license PLUS Basic Handling Skills ,and you can ride up to 250cc.

After all, learners only need the BHS at present. And we can assume that a cage driver will know the road code (Hah

). And BHS would at least mean they know how to ride. Under the present rule someone who's never even ridden a pushbike can jump on a scooter and set off down the motorway.

But as I'm not yet dictator, I guess we're stuck with what we've got. BTW, is it any car license ? Learner ? Restricted ? And are they restricted to 70kph?

**FROSTY:Me** · 23rd July 2005, 10:17

Ixion --mate have you ever ridden the average 50cc scooter (ignoreing the hotted up gileras and the likes) -They dont need to be restricted --they only manage 70 anyhoo maybee 80
There is always gonna be a percentage of cager/semi converts telling horror stories for sure.
Im thinking christchurch/inner subberbs of auckland. wellytown -upper hutt etc and hammyhole--all fairly flat all basicly 50k driving.

**Ixion** · 23rd July 2005, 10:30

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Ixion --mate have you ever ridden the average 50cc scooter (ignoreing the hotted up gileras and the likes) -They dont need to be restricted --they only manage 70 anyhoo maybee 80
There is always gonna be a percentage of cager/semi converts telling horror stories for sure.
Im thinking christchurch/inner subberbs of auckland. wellytown -upper hutt etc and hammyhole--all fairly flat all basicly 50k driving.

Yeah, I knew that. That's why I said that most commuters would need something bigger (hotter 50cc's would probably be not nice in traffic).

Inner suburbs of Auckland, mostly don't work near there. Nearest work would be CBD, and buses to there are good. If you live in inner suburbs (not too many of them are flat in Auckland, BTW) , and work in Wiri, or Avondale etc, 50cc ain't going to be fun. Let alone the Harbour Bridge.

Mind you my Yammy 50cc did 105 kph once (well I reckon it was, speedo only went up to 100). Tad windy that day!

Was just wondering what the actual law was. Assuming I've only got a car licence, and I get hold of a hot RG50 , can I blat it down the motorway at 100kph? Isn't the "50cc on a cage license" limited to ones that can only do 50kph? Or something.
[sigh] Yeah , I know. I'll go google it.