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    Blah GN250s are soooooo gutless

    man i just got a ginny250 to legally learn on [and my gpz400r ninga [pride and once was joy] just killed its gear box. or maybe i killed it but dats another ramble.] i took it for a ride and it was against the wind. so here i was going to pass a truck doing 90 clicks and used its slipstream to get the speed to pass it. so i hit 120 and pulled out and smack! the wind had more power than the bike and it went staight down to 100k's. i had to pull back in and wait. so a word of advice to all you new GN250 riders dont try what i did. i have had it for a week now and love it around town but on the highway just be patient unless you have no wind and heeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaps of road [oh, oncoming traffic is not for dodging]. just ride it nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover
    man i just got a ginny250 to legally learn on [and my gpz400r ninga [pride and once was joy] just killed its gear box. or maybe i killed it but dats another ramble.] i took it for a ride and it was against the wind. so here i was going to pass a truck doing 90 clicks and used its slipstream to get the speed to pass it. so i hit 120 and pulled out and smack! the wind had more power than the bike and it went staight down to 100k's. i had to pull back in and wait. so a word of advice to all you new GN250 riders dont try what i did. i have had it for a week now and love it around town but on the highway just be patient unless you have no wind and heeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaps of road [oh, oncoming traffic is not for dodging]. just ride it nicely.
    Bother changing down or did you leave it in top gear?. You do know it has more than one don't you?...................

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    It's all relative. You hopped off a GPZ400 ... so the GN is comparatively gutless. If you'd just hopped off a scooter you'd think the GN was a real ball-tearer. Just keep thinking scooter thoughts and it'll all seem so much better.

    Just a matter of adapting your riding style to suit the new bikes abilities and getting used to it I guess which it sounds like you've sussed anyway. I had the pleasure of riding a GN125 for a short time. Hell of an easy bike to ride and fun. Shame it wouldn't do more that 70kph without a tailwind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie
    It's all relative. You hopped off a GPZ400 ... so the GN is comparatively gutless. If you'd just hopped off a scooter you'd think the GN was a real ball-tearer. Just keep thinking scooter thoughts and it'll all seem so much better.

    Just a matter of adapting your riding style to suit the new bikes abilities and getting used to it I guess which it sounds like you've sussed anyway. I had the pleasure of riding a GN125 for a short time. Hell of an easy bike to ride and fun. Shame it wouldn't do more that 70kph without a tailwind.
    they are stubborn like that...mine has to be pushed to get over 95, but i have had her up to 115 with a tailwind [head wind on the way kept me 90ish, mainly cos i couldnt see properly due to glasses being pushed up.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin
    they are stubborn like that...mine has to be pushed to get over 95, but i have had her up to 115 with a tailwind [head wind on the way kept me 90ish, mainly cos i couldnt see properly due to glasses being pushed up.
    You off your learner's now sunhuntin, or are you telling porkies about the top speed of that GN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer
    You off your learner's now sunhuntin, or are you telling porkies about the top speed of that GN?
    still on learners, and not telling porkies. id love to know how fast michael [the guy i was riding with] was going, cos he was always well ahead of me, and his bikes the same. think i only managed to get ahead of him once, and even then it was only for a few minutes, lol. dont much like high speeds, so next time i ride with him, will ask him to keep the speed down a tad, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin
    they are stubborn like that...mine has to be pushed to get over 95, but i have had her up to 115 with a tailwind [head wind on the way kept me 90ish, mainly cos i couldnt see properly due to glasses being pushed up.]

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    Should do more than that. Were you on the tank ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin
    they are stubborn like that...mine has to be pushed to get over 95, but i have had her up to 115 with a tailwind [head wind on the way kept me 90ish, mainly cos i couldnt see properly due to glasses being pushed up.]

    i love my bike
    Personnally I think the rear tyre they come with is rather big for it's modest "power" output. Anyone downsized the rear for the hell of it? A guy at work just bought a new GN yestrday. Would like to pass on any "constuctive" advise I'm going one size down on the rear of the GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez
    Personnally I think the rear tyre they come with is rather big for it's modest "power" output. Anyone downsized the rear for the hell of it? A guy at work just bought a new GN yestrday. Would like to pass on any "constuctive" advise I'm going one size down on the rear of the GB.

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    Are they overgeared ? What revs are they doing flat out in top ? Some commuters through the years have deliberately been overgeared by the manufacturers, who realise that people will ride them flat out for long distances. So they gear them up to reduce revs and load under such conditions. Result is the bike is faster in (top gear minus 1) than in top

    F'instance, L'il Ratty is faster in fifth than sixth. Fifth at 100kph is only 5500 (redline is 10500 - 12000).

    Not just little bikes. BSA Thunderbolt was faster in third than fourth, same reason, geared up (overdrive) top gear, to give relaxed touring. It's actually a good idea, so long as you realise about it.
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    had my gn250 up to 140+ with good tail wind, cranks over to 120 fairly reasonably and then plods its way all the way up to a whopping 130 on a good stretch of road, ewehehehee, just dont brake otherwise u gotta pick that speed up again

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeRax
    had my gn250 up to 140+ with good tail wind, cranks over to 120 fairly reasonably and then plods its way all the way up to a whopping 130 on a good stretch of road, ewehehehee, just dont brake otherwise u gotta pick that speed up again

    That sounds more about right. Around 85mph.
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    did you notice your mirrors shaking when you got to that speed? i notice when i hit about 95k, my mirrors [mainly the left one] shake so bad i cant see anything in them. i cant imagine getting my lil girl that high up [140k]

    ixion, i wasnt sitting on the tank, but i do weigh a fair bit, so thats likely why she struggles to get that high. havent really made a note of RPM yet, but will try and remember next time i take her outside city limits, lol.

    i have noticed shes easier to run when shes going up hill if shes in 3rd or 4th, not 5th though [tried it once, didnt sound right, so will hold her back]
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin
    did you notice your mirrors shaking when you got to that speed? i notice when i hit about 95k, my mirrors [mainly the left one] shake so bad i cant see anything in them. i cant imagine getting my lil girl that high up [140k]

    ixion, i wasnt sitting on the tank, but i do weigh a fair bit, so thats likely why she struggles to get that high. havent really made a note of RPM yet, but will try and remember next time i take her outside city limits, lol.

    i have noticed shes easier to run when shes going up hill if shes in 3rd or 4th, not 5th though [tried it once, didnt sound right, so will hold her back]
    No not sitting on the tank. PLEASE DON'T TRY DOING THAT. I think it might make the bike unstable. What I meant was, on an unfaired bike, to get top speed you need to reduce wind resistance of your body. So you crouch right down and shift back on the seat and lean forward , so your top half and head are flat along the tank - looking foward by tilting your head and eyes up. "Flat on the tank" . 'Tis fun indeed at 120mph, especially with high bars!

    Uphill I'd expect you'd always need 4th or lower.

    If you keep going chances are you'll find that vibration period will improve as the revs go up. It doesn't necessarily get worse as revs increase (of course , sometimes it does. It is a 4 stroke single. Tis part of their charm). After a bit you get quite good at interpreting what that blur in the mirrors is (If the blur becomes a red and blue blur, that means trouble !). At least with modern bikes the mirrors do stay on the bike, once upon a time they'd have vibrated right off the handlebars.

    Little bikes, if you want to get speed, you have to rev them . Wheee.
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    true that, think i was just in the reds when i got it to 140+ and the mirrors shake like an ape coming down off every drug known to man

    but i always make sure to look for blue and red somewhere in that blur

    i weigh like 63kg aswell, so yeh. certainly no ''big'' dave on a gn250

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    I have ridden a couple of GN250s and have never had any trouble at cruising at 110 - 120 kph. They do need plenty of revs and shouldn't be in top gear until you are firmly established at your desired cruising speed.

    Top gear is only an overdrive, and i would be rather suprised if you could accellerate to any more than 95 - 100 in top.
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