Tazers

[scumdog]

Tazer 'em? risk them having a heart attack.

Pepper spray them? Risk them having an asthma(sp) attack

Shoot them? Risk them leaking to death

Asp them? Risk breaking bones.

Asp looks the 'nicest' - but then you have to be awful close to use it.

With the top three I guess it's TPC (Time Place Circumstance) and if any of those 'tools' are used there is normally a good reason.

[placidfemme]

fire a warning shot into the ceiling afterwards? ... that's what I was told to do by the south african police, too so guess there must be something in it...

Yep... my mom was told that too in Zimbabwe... Shoot them in the head (if you can aim that well...) then shoot them in the leg (once they are down so it's easy)... then shoot the roof...

Then tell the story the other way around... shot the roof... he kept coming... shot his leg... he kept coming... shot him in the head/chest... and.... he stopped lol

[Postie]

Yep... my mom was told that too in Zimbabwe... Shoot them in the head (if you can aim that well...) then shoot them in the leg (once they are down so it's easy)... then shoot the roof...

Then tell the story the other way around... shot the roof... he kept coming... shot his leg... he kept coming... shot him in the head/chest... and.... he stopped lol

If the London police could have thought of that quick enough, it would have saved heaps of questions......

[SARGE]

We have dealt with it. We didn't join the Murkins in their Middle Eastern adventures.
Al Qaeda think we're an island south of Australia.

thats BS Lou.. drive down Stoddard Road some evening past the Central Mosque and tell me they are not here en masse

hell your Immigration department gives them a free pass.. when i was going for Residency, the caseworker i scored was Pakistani, spoke broken english and wanted a copy of my Military history for some reason.. i copped HEAPS of shit from her ( needless to say, she didnt get a copy...)

the US was complacent on 10 Sept 01 too.. we were big strong and attack-proof

London was complacent a few weeks ago too..

i dont agree with G.W's policies.. dont like him .. didnt like his daddy.. But Hussein HAD to go.. WMD's or not .. he had already proven the fact that he was a nutcase, capable of anything ( ask the Kurds) We shoulda finished the job in 91 and the shit we are in right now would have been over long ago.

Curiosity didnt kill the cat.. Complacency did

/END RANT

[Drunken Monkey]

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One of the largest/strongest guys round I know of was dropped by a little wee female cheff with an asp batton who nearly broke his leg in a excercise.

What on Earth would posses seemingly normal human beings to weild such nasty implements as the asp?
Not that I know what an asp is anyway... nothing to see here, move along...

[Pancakes]

I think the tazer is a good idea. Verbal warnings to someone who is obviously not coping too well at that point in time and then shot? I'm sure the cops and victims would be happy for an intermediate measure. To all the "rather be shots". Give it a go, then I dare you to say it again. Some people can die from a tazer but the voltages on some are variable so with the pins in place a "test" shock can be given. As stated before, people who the police have confronted with arms aren't just cruzing through town with 1/2 a tinney in their back pocket. You or your missus or kids probably don't want to bump into them. The asp is pretty nasty too and who says a cop should have to get in arms reach of some scumbag as part of their daily routine. They are just human bodies in uniform and are as susceptable to a hiding as the rest of us. As adults we need to weigh up the costs v.s the benefits and if you do get tazered by a bastard on his bad day you'll be alive to collect your payout. 2nd best looks good next to dead.

[SARGE]

some Police Dept's in the US use a "riot Round" .. its a smallish canvas bag filled with sand or such like.. fired from a standard 12 Ga or a propriatary "gun"... does not penetrate..no long term effects , other than a HUGE bruise on the chest.. supposedly feels like you've just been decked with a bowling ball

[scumdog]

some Police Dept's in the US use a "riot Round" .. its a smallish canvas bag filled with sand or such like.. fired from a standard 12 Ga or a propriatary "gun"... does not penetrate..no long term effects , other than a HUGE bruise on the chest.. supposedly feels like you've just been decked with a bowling ball

Yeah but at Buena Park somebody grabbed the wrong gun (this was a few years ago) and the guy ended up with a cluster of little holes in him!

Notice now how the 'less than lethal' guns are all painted green? (or white in some areas)!

[Ixion]

so perhaps we can wear chain mail to stop those tazers?

wonder if those barbs goes thru leathers

Kevlar ? Wonder how quick the loss of muscle ability is . Time enough to cut the cable ? I can wield a sword pretty quick. Shield ? The Saxons could fend off an arrow storn with shields.

[Lou Girardin]

thats BS Lou.. drive down Stoddard Road some evening past the Central Mosque and tell me they are not here en masse

hell your Immigration department gives them a free pass.. when i was going for Residency, the caseworker i scored was Pakistani, spoke broken english and wanted a copy of my Military history for some reason.. i copped HEAPS of shit from her ( needless to say, she didnt get a copy...)

the US was complacent on 10 Sept 01 too.. we were big strong and attack-proof

London was complacent a few weeks ago too..

i dont agree with G.W's policies.. dont like him .. didnt like his daddy.. But Hussein HAD to go.. WMD's or not .. he had already proven the fact that he was a nutcase, capable of anything ( ask the Kurds) We shoulda finished the job in 91 and the shit we are in right now would have been over long ago.

Curiosity didnt kill the cat.. Complacency did

/END RANT

God, where do I start?
Contrary to Hollywoods foreign policy, not ALL ragheads are terrorists. Just as not all Murkins are fat, paranoid retards.
London was not complacent, they knew they would be attacked and foiled several attempts. But because the don't have 'all colours of the rainbow' alerts, you don't hear much about them.
And the Middle East is much, much safer now that Saddam has gone, isn't it?
29,000 dead Iraqis are eternally grateful for the invasion.

[Lou Girardin]

And I've seen footage of a guy take 5 or 6 of those beanbag rounds before he dropped.

[Ixion]

I think the tazer is a good idea. Verbal warnings to someone who is obviously not coping too well at that point in time and then shot? I'm sure the cops and victims would be happy for an intermediate measure. To all the "rather be shots". Give it a go, then I dare you to say it again. Some people can die from a tazer but the voltages on some are variable so with the pins in place a "test" shock can be given. As stated before, people who the police have confronted with arms aren't just cruzing through town with 1/2 a tinney in their back pocket. You or your missus or kids probably don't want to bump into them. The asp is pretty nasty too and who says a cop should have to get in arms reach of some scumbag as part of their daily routine. They are just human bodies in uniform and are as susceptable to a hiding as the rest of us. As adults we need to weigh up the costs v.s the benefits and if you do get tazered by a bastard on his bad day you'll be alive to collect your payout. 2nd best looks good next to dead.

Hmm. Red Squad anyone ? Wonder how things would have gone if they'd been armed with tasers .

Guess a Taser is "better" than a gun.. Pity though that we have come to the point that our police are routinely armed with lethal or potentially lethal force.

Danger is that shooting easily becomes the first response. Even in Australia a lot of innocent and semi-innocent (doing something naughty but not serious) people get shot. Easy for a nervous cop to do, misread a movement and grab for the oh-so-handy gun.

Always feel REAL nervous in countries where the cops are walking around with guns on their hips.

Chicken and egg though . Pity the cops carry guns now. But pity that we have crims who make the carrying necessary. Maybe if judges dished out some decent sentences to said crimns the need for guns would be ameliorated.

[thehollowmen]

well we should all have a desert Eagle(.50) on our hip then, no one walks away from half an inch of lead going through ya!

One of the largest/strongest guys round I know of was dropped by a little wee female cheff with an asp batton who nearly broke his leg in a excercise.

Seen the S&W .50 revolver?
That is a scary gun.

It is more a rifle than a pistol but... gawd damn the police would have fun with that.

"Ohhh speeding truck *bam* that made it pull over"

[SARGE]

God, where do I start?
Contrary to Hollywoods foreign policy, not ALL ragheads are terrorists. Just as not all Murkins are fat, paranoid retards.
London was not complacent, they knew they would be attacked and foiled several attempts. But because the don't have 'all colours of the rainbow' alerts, you don't hear much about them.
And the Middle East is much, much safer now that Saddam has gone, isn't it?
29,000 dead Iraqis are eternally grateful for the invasion.

the Sandbox will be safer Lou.. not tomorrow.. maybe not next year.. but the Iraqis that didnt die are in a better state than they were 2 years ago.. they will soon have an elected govt.. and if the popo and the government can stay off the corruption trail.. all will be well...
this really fucks me off sometimes.. how come everyone remembers the Abu Garib prison.. the colatteral damage ( simple.. move out of the war zone) and everything else.. but no-one remembers those American contractors who were burned, dismembered and hung from the bridge, or the 241 of my brothers who died in Lebanon in '83, trying to help out the @#$ PLO? (that was my unit btw..ask me about trying to piece together your best mate so his mom could have something to bury)
how come it is acceptable to behead people and post the vid on the net?..why is it ok to drive a truck bomb into a crowd of children getting lollies from a US Marine and kill 25 of them to get 1 Marine?
i never said that all Arabs are terrorists.. but im willing to bet that there ARE quite a few of them in and around NZ and that the Muslim community is aware of them.

fuckin animals

[Zapf]

And why is it the US has to impose on other countries what IT thinks its right? And then put up a puppet goverment that is massively in debt to the US, so in effect the US takes control of the country not by force, but by economic..... etc blar blar blar... but like anyone cares...