Changing Up

[The Stranger:Me]

When changing up gears do you use a your clutch?

I find it much quicker and smoother to change without the clutch.

[**R1**]

NA, only on the way down

[Motoracer]

1st - 2nd You need clutch on small bikes with short gearing. Other wise it's too harsh. Then the rest can be no clutch.

On big bikes that can do 100 plus in 1st gear, it doesn't really matter.

Though even on my 600, it was better using clutching from 1st to 2nd..

[SuperDave]

1st - 2nd You need clutch on small bikes with short gearing. Other wise it's too harsh. Then the rest can be no clutch.

I've tried shifting from 3rd to 4th a couple of times without the clutch and It didn't feel good at all. So what's the trick? Has it something to do with throttle as you shift?

[The Stranger:Me]

Slightly preload the shift lever then back the throttle off about 25% and it will just slip in then reapply the throttle.

On the Honda it shifts like an auto at any speed, but the Yamaha is a little clunky unless you are feeding it the fat.

[SPORK]

I find it easier to do clutchless shifts on the AG, makes it change nice and cleanly.

It goes at quite some pace in 4th gear full throttle across the paddocks...

[inlinefour]

But I'm not in that much of a hurry and use my clutch for all gear changes. I understand why racing it may be preferable to not use the clutch, but on the road I can't see the need. Don't know about anyone else though...

[justsomeguy]

But I'm not in that much of a hurry and use my clutch for all gear changes. I understand why racing it may be preferable to not use the clutch, but on the road I can't see the need. Don't know about anyone else though...

It's pretty useful if you ride a gutless 250....

[SuperDave]

But I'm not in that much of a hurry and use my clutch for all gear changes. I understand why racing it may be preferable to not use the clutch, but on the road I can't see the need. Don't know about anyone else though...

I think my shifting is pretty damn fast even with the clutch. The quarter of a second faster shifting time like you say makes jack all difference on the road. I guess it ultimately comes down to what is better for your bike, I think mine prefers clutch but like others have said, their larger cc bikes shift smoother without clutch.

[SuperDave]

It's pretty useful if you ride a gutless 250....

How does it help you?

[Zed]

When changing up gears do you use a your clutch?

I find it much quicker and smoother to change without the clutch.

I think it's a good habit to use the clutch, which I do most of the time, except when opening it up through the gears on a good straight, usually trying to pull away from someone!

[John]

I normally avoid the clutch, it slips bad - I need a new one, so I save skipping into N by just clutchless shifting, makes 1st gear engine braking a bit of fun, the rear gets nice and wiggly, cant be to good for the compression lol ...

[Motu]

The DT230 is jerky to ride using the clutch - too powerful,light,with very close gears...it's much smoother to just nail it and flick,flick,flick - that's what it was built to do and you just fall into that riding style.With no engine braking clutchless down shifts are a breeze,too easy actualy....with my left leg floating on and off the peg an accidental touch and I'm down a gear - but they are so close and with not much engine braking it's not too much of a drama.

[WINJA]

I normally avoid the clutch, it slips bad - I need a new one, so I save skipping into N by just clutchless shifting, makes 1st gear engine braking a bit of fun, the rear gets nice and wiggly, cant be to good for the compression lol ...

HAVE YOU TRIED MY RACE DAY CLUTCH FIX JOHN , IT REALLY WORKS AND LASTED FOR AGES , NO NEW PARTS NEEDED

[ducatilover]

when i'm attempting to pass some one i dont use the clutch....cos my gn i fricken guttless!