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    Lightbulb 06 R6...Fly-by-wire

    I was just reading:

    http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/news.html

    and is says the new 06 R6 will have fly-by-wire!!!

    Is this the first production bike to have this?

    The new R6 has got fly-by-wire* electronic throttle. Yamaha calls the system YCC-T. Read more about fly-by-wire below. The only reason you would want fly-by-wire on a motorcycle is basically traction control. TS

    *Fly-by-wire explained: If the fully mapped characteristics of the engine are known, taking into account RPM, throttle opening, air density (including ram-air effects), engine temperature, fuel temperature etc., the throttles can be controlled by the engine computer to deliver torque proportional to throttle position. If the engine cannot deliver as much as the rider is demanding (due for instance to too low RPM) it just goes to maximum throttle. This is the most progressive engine, as it takes out all the dips and bumps in the torque curve, and means that the engine designer can tune for maximum power. The second option is a variation on this, with the gear ratio being used to modify the throttle setting so that the rear wheel torque is controlled directly. With the ratio selection now also under full computer control, the optimum ratio for acceleration can be selected instead of a higher than optimum ratio, which riders often use to reduce the response of the engine to throttle changes and thus facilitate control of the motorcycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louisb
    I was just reading:http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/news.html
    and is says the new 06 R6 will have fly-by-wire!!!
    Fly by wire, electronic adjustable suspension (BMW), ABS (Various), Airbags (Honda), Two wheel drive (Yamaha)..

    What next? 4 wheels? A roof? A Microwave oven?!?

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    These new fangled machines!

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    Don't take this the wrong way but.....

    Feck me dead.... No throttle cable? No feeling the weight of the bike against your palm? (sigh) No direct mechanical connection to the engine???

    How long before we just buy a video game or a simulator? Gods teeth I'm glad I'm old and don't care anymore... Give me my old piece of crap built by people that cared rather than faceless robots... I don't care how well they go this aint right...

    Or

    Have i got it wrong again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    Or

    Have i got it wrong again...
    Time will tell.

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    I like this gadget stuff, and I have to say I'm tempted.

    But...just think of how many things can go wrong! How much would it all cost to fix!!

    This will render my Duct Tape/Pipe Clear/Cable Tie toolkit obsolete!
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    Im with you paul. How far do they have to go before we arnt atcualy riding a bike? jujst along for the ride dosnt sound like much fun to me
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    Aprilias GP bike was all fly by wire.
    The riders hated it!
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Argghhh. I still haven't reconciled myself to the disappearance of the manual advance/retard. I like to make my own calls, not leave it to some damn computer
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    Quote Originally Posted by froggyfrenchman
    Im with you paul. How far do they have to go before we arnt atcualy riding a bike? jujst along for the ride dosnt sound like much fun to me
    Exactly... I know I'm old and will in all probability never manage to get enough money to stay put in one place to afford one of these devices but frankly, they have all the appeal of an inflatable butt plug. ie Once I have got over the astonishment that they exist I wonder why anyone would possible need such a thing couple with a certain curiosity as I realise I may have been missing out on one of lifes great pleasures mixed with the certainty that I would not have enjoyed it much anyway!

    I sit here listening to Emmy Lou signing her heart out over her dead lover and knowing I'm listening to something inately human, warts and all....

    I think of my neglected old Trumpy waiting patiently for her glory days to come again and the wonderful Guzzi. Both built by people that even cared enough to make their own nuts and bolts... Yeah I know, it makes no economic sense and Big Dave thinks I'm a dumb old cunt but they have 'something' that can't be turned out like jello... Guts, an essence, something that smells of funny old geezers, kerosine and oily rags... Commitment to an ideal and ideas above their station... Connection....

    And I'll tell you what...

    I'm glad I can feel it... It's something that tugs at your soul and that you seldom tire of... Rightness... Every apex you kiss, every time you let the throttle run a little more than is strictly needed you feel an unbroken line of snaggle toothed old geezers nodding in appreciation that you still dare to use something so pointless in the manner it was intended...

    The ultimate expression of the conversion of petroleum to noise, forwards motion and fun....

    Fly by wire? Piss off... I'm flying by cable thanks...
    Last edited by Paul in NZ; 16th September 2005 at 21:32.

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    Hmmm, seems like it would be better suited to a larger machine aka R1.

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    what about power steering? we need power steering on bikes I reckon..

    actually, on a semi-serious note, think they'll do wire gear shift too? Don't know about clutchless (may be semi-clutch?), but instead of the clunk of changing..
    don't know about wire throttle either.. might sound stupid, but do they go wrong?

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    I've got a 1975 Mercedes 240 Diesel. That thing has a kind of soul. People have been telling me for years to 'get rid of it'. I just love the old thing. It's got a solid throttle connection using bars and such. you can feel the vibration of the engine through the pedel.

    But I've also got a love of new technology. I'd love to own both ends of the scale. Just to keep a balance. one day soon.

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    Wonder if it will still be on the 07 model. Technology like this is great in the early road tests and bagged the following year. Of course I could be wrong but it would put me off buying one.
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    why is it called fly by wire? Last time i checked you needed lift to get off the ground and therefore be considered "flying", does this mean that it only works when the bike is in the air?

    you cant transfer technology, but please change the fricken name so its relevant...

    i like the thought, but doubt i'd like riding it.
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