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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    Yes, i have read the thread and also spoken with Jon, thanks. I would like to quote more than one succesful case.
    Read this one as well then? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...his-quot-legal

    Also linked from that thread...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Read this one as well then? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...his-quot-legal

    Also linked from that thread...
    Yes, thanks. I had seen that one and sent a pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    Jeez Surf that ol Jam jar still going OK since the rebuild after Taumaranui?
    I'm with you, sorry no experience with plate mounting issues. Time you came along to a South Auckland Thursday Night Ride and showed off that beast of a bike.
    Bike is running well. Got rid of the battery now, and also rebuilt the carbs so its a lot smoother to ride. like to come hang out with you guys but Thursdays a tricky night for me. Be great to catch up.
    Last edited by surfer; 26th July 2015 at 20:24. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Have you paid the fine yet .. ???
    Not yet, I do not admit liability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    Not yet, I do not admit liability.
    Then be sure to appear in court then. Non attendence is ALSO admission of guilt ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    All motorcycles in NZ (except Brittens) are imported.
    And Mountain Goats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Then be sure to appear in court then. Non attendence is ALSO admission of guilt ...
    Thanks, noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    And Mountain Goats.
    and farm quads.....well they should be

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    Law says must be visible from rear. Only indicators need to be seen from 45 degree angle, and my indicators can be.

    At what angle can you read a number plate on the back of a car?

    I see a lot of boat and horse trailers with side mounted plates. I also see trucks with number plates mounted underneath.

    I am not being a dick. My bike has a WOF, rego, LVVTA cert. Been riding around on it most days for last seven or eight years as it takes me to work. Never been pointed out to me before despite being stopped by police for road side checks. So why now? I think being pinged for this is wrong.
    definitely take it to court, dunno why some cops feel the need to pull shit like this such a massive waste of yours/courts/cops time on something so pathetic. like others have said all my trailers have always had side mounted plates and never had an issue in over 10 years with them

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    The JP(s) or whoever is/are hearing the cases on whatever day this gets to court will likely not have a fucking clue about any of this, so you will need to go armed with the relevant information. Three copies.

    Last time I did that sort of thing it turned out the wanted a copy too; I had thought they could make do with their own - but no. I just took a copy for me and the JPs. It all ended happily anyway.
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    INFRINGEMENT NOTICE FOR PLATE NOT MOUNTED IN PRESCRIBED MANNER

    On the way back from Salt Lake Cycles in Helensville on 14 June 2015 I was stopped, doing nothing wrong, and issued with an infringement notice for number plate not being mounted in prescribed manner. I was polite and friendly and pointed out that this particular issue had already gone to court and did not go in favour of the police. I opted to go to court to challenge the $150 fine and twenty demerit points that comes with it.

    I was also told on two seperate occaisions by the Police Infringement Bureau that I could be stopped again and issued with another fine and more demerits if I continued to ride my bike on the road.

    Case was heard today 13 October 2015 North Shore District Court infringement notice V2042934 Martin vs Police. I WON😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 woooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo

    The main issues were 1. Definition of what upright means 2. Number plate not being visible as it is side mounted. The law used to try and pin this on me was Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration & Licensing) Regulations 2011, regulation 77 (1) (b) (i).

    Many thanks to Jon61 for his support and coaching; invaluable stuff. Thanks eveyone else for your support, and in posting comments here😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    The main issues were 1. Definition of what upright means 2. Number plate not being visible as it is side mounted. The law used to try and pin this on me was Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration & Licensing) Regulations 2011, regulation 77 (1) (b) (i).
    Link to the statute: http://legislation.govt.nz/regulatio...01.html?src=qs
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Glad you got a result. I am all for obeying the law but not individuals roadside interpretations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    INFRINGEMENT NOTICE FOR PLATE NOT MOUNTED IN PRESCRIBED MANNER

    On the way back from Salt Lake Cycles in Helensville on 14 June 2015 I was stopped, doing nothing wrong, and issued with an infringement notice for number plate not being mounted in prescribed manner. I was polite and friendly and pointed out that this particular issue had already gone to court and did not go in favour of the police. I opted to go to court to challenge the $150 fine and twenty demerit points that comes with it.

    I was also told on two seperate occaisions by the Police Infringement Bureau that I could be stopped again and issued with another fine and more demerits if I continued to ride my bike on the road.

    Case was heard today 13 October 2015 North Shore District Court infringement notice V2042934 Martin vs Police. I WON����������������������������������������������� �������������������������������������������������� ����������� woooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo

    The main issues were 1. Definition of what upright means 2. Number plate not being visible as it is side mounted. The law used to try and pin this on me was Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration & Licensing) Regulations 2011, regulation 77 (1) (b) (i).

    Many thanks to Jon61 for his support and coaching; invaluable stuff. Thanks eveyone else for your support, and in posting comments here��
    Did the pig that wrote you the ticket show up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    The main issues were 1. Definition of what upright means
    Funny. I googled 'upright' and a definition of upright is 'greater in height than breadth'. E.g., an upright freezer.

    Sounds like most of the plates on bikes aren't 'upright' at all...
    "It's hard to keep an open mind, when so many people are trying to put things in it"

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