Is it illegal to ZING on your bike?

**Deano** · 15th October 2005, 11:32

Originally Posted by Ixion

"Right", says Mr Plod. "You can't have that here. Either give it to me and I will tip it out or leave the area immediately". "But, but--". Explanations fell on deaf ears,and Mr Plod becomes very nasty indeed, ranting and raving and threatening to arrest etc.

Most liquor ban bylaws allow the transportation of liquor and the above case would I believe qualify. (How else are you meant to get liquor home from a bottle store in the CBD ?)

Given the circumstances you describe and the fact that the intent of the bylaw is to prevent public disorder, I would say this was very poor policing.

**crazylittleshit** · 15th October 2005, 11:50

(3)An enforcement officer in uniform or wearing a distinctive cap, hat, or helmet, with a badge of authority affixed to it, who is for the time being engaged in the regulation of traffic on a road, may—

If the cops not wearing the hat in the car I don't need to stop see.....

**Velox** · 15th October 2005, 12:42

Thanks SC - useful stuff.

To sum it up it seems the only reason you can leave is if they actually say so, otherwise they could say they wanted to check your brakes or something and ping you for it. Oh well.

**Ixion** · 15th October 2005, 12:50

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Contrary to popular opinion and the assumption of so many in this thread, cops don't generaly pull people over simply to screw with them and muck them around. There may be some that do but I'm confident in saying that the majority don't. Therefore if you think they have finished doing whatever it was they were doing and you want to get on your way, just politely ask if there is any other reason that they may require you to remain stopped, if not, you are free to go.
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Well, I don't think anyone has argued that the attitudes under discussion are those of the majority of cops. In fact several posters have specifically made the point that the majority are fine. It's the minority (and a small minority, I think) that we are talking about.

And unfortunately , with that small minority, the public seem to have no effective course of action, or redress.

**rudolph** · 15th October 2005, 13:16

I have been pulled over for the most stuped resons mostly coz i was on a bike

**mikey** · 15th October 2005, 17:08

half of my posts get deleted to! an some times i know im just not buzzing out because someone will have given me rep for it an then when i go back an look for it its gone!

**jimbo600** · 15th October 2005, 18:26

Originally Posted by Velox

Thanks SC - useful stuff.

To sum it up it seems the only reason you can leave is if they actually say so, otherwise they could say they wanted to check your brakes or something and ping you for it. Oh well.

Well I tell y'all if I get pulled for a ticket no worries, but if I get pulled and harassed (prob unlikely) and I feel that I'm being detained for this reason I'm going. End of argument. I am willing to go to court over this if necessary.

**spudchucka** · 15th October 2005, 19:29

Originally Posted by crazylittleshit

(3)An enforcement officer in uniform or wearing a distinctive cap, hat, or helmet, with a badge of authority affixed to it, who is for the time being engaged in the regulation of traffic on a road, may—

If the cops not wearing the hat in the car I don't need to stop see.....

The key word there is "or".

**spudchucka** · 15th October 2005, 19:31

Originally Posted by Deano

Most liquor ban bylaws allow the transportation of liquor and the above case would I believe qualify. (How else are you meant to get liquor home from a bottle store in the CBD ?)

Given the circumstances you describe and the fact that the intent of the bylaw is to prevent public disorder, I would say this was very poor policing.

Liquor bans relate to open vessels only, not a six pack under your arm as you walk on home.

Edit: I went back and read Ixion's post about the bottle of whiskey. That cop got it wrong, unless they have a bylaw in that area completely different to other areas.

And BTW complaining to a cops boss does work. They (the bosses) get sick of dealing with public complaints and cops that attract large amounts of complaints will get reamed out.

**Ixion** · 15th October 2005, 19:34

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Liquor bans relate to open vessels only, not a six pack under your arm as you walk on home.

This is a Dorkland thing, city council Bylaw. Prohibits ALL alcohol in an area, except in arestaurant, private home, or being transported through or out of , the area (or into it if being deoivered to a shop, pub etc) . His problem was he could take the whisky home, but he couldn't keep it with him in the area.

**spudchucka** · 15th October 2005, 19:45

Originally Posted by Ixion

This is a Dorkland thing, city council Bylaw. Prohibits ALL alcohol in an area, except in arestaurant, private home, or being transported through or out of , the area (or into it if being deoivered to a shop, pub etc) . His problem was he could take the whisky home, but he couldn't keep it with him in the area.

First time I've heard of a ban on all alcohol in an area. I bet the BYO restaraunts in the area are pissed off about that! The other point is that bans are intended to help reduce public disorder and the enforcement of the bans should be targeted at those who are likely to contribute to disorder. This generally wouldn't include a person of your friends age on his way to a show.

Banning all alcohol from an area is crazy as anybody that happens to drive through a ban area with alcohol in their possession but not currently open or being consumed may then be committing an offence. Thats just stupid!

**Hailwood** · 15th October 2005, 19:47

Having followed this thread since inception (apart from the rantings of offtopic stuff) it seems to me that the info from the boysinblue here is simple.(thanks for it too sc).......stay unless you ask to leave, if you are not happy take the details and report it to the officer's superior officer (as you will have got his name)....and, as one who has ridden over said paekak hill, be warned that the antizinger is there as well as the cages...enough reason now with new reduced speed limit to avoid said hill as much as possible..shame cos it used to be fun road...now waiting for speed cameras etc to be set up on ïmproved'? Kaitoke road......

**VasalineWarrior** · 15th October 2005, 19:51

Originally Posted by mikey

half of my posts get deleted to! an some times i know im just not buzzing out because someone will have given me rep for it an then when i go back an look for it its gone!

Thats cause of all that acid you drop mikey

**Ixion** · 15th October 2005, 19:54

Originally Posted by spudchucka

First time I've heard of a ban on all alcohol in an area. I bet the BYO restaraunts in the area are pissed off about that! The other point is that bans are intended to help reduce public disorder and the enforcement of the bans should be targeted at those who are likely to contribute to disorder. This generally wouldn't include a person of your friends age on his way to a show.

Banning all alcohol from an area is crazy as anybody that happens to drive through a ban area with alcohol in their possession but not currently open or being consumed may then be committing an offence. Thats just stupid!

Auckland city council info on alcohol bans

Does not apply to private homes, any premises with a liquor license, or transport out of or through.

**ducatilover** · 15th October 2005, 20:46

cops can't be that bad....i passed one yestaday doing 120 [yes, on a gn

] when i saw him it was a bit late to slow down so i waved at him and kept the throttle wide open trying to do 130. he didnt even turn around.

. i attempted to race a hayabusa over the pahiatua track yesterday also, that was very short lived, i'm sure the cunt was laughing at me. i was scraping my pegs very hard attempting too out hairpin him

he stayed behind me the whole time

dont get me wrong but i can out corner any cage over there easy [smoked a mitsi evo/ boy racer in the same hairpins] and this fricken busa just stayed there and overtook me at near light speed on a straight.......

just let him wait till i'm asleep then i'll be a good rider on an even better bike for corners, eg gsxr750k5