Your ACC Levy

[bugjuice]

yeah, fair call.. really not switched on today.
I'd still say statistically, there could be more car accidents vs bike accidents. But I wasn't thinking of the 'minor knocks' of car vs bike etc..

[Beemer]

One thing I think is really unfair about levies on registration rather than on petrol or per person is that if you have more than one vehicle, the risk remains the same, but the cost is multiplied - this is NOT "user pays" at all.
F'rinstance, I have four vehicles registered in my name, but can use only one at any time.

Yes, it sucks! We have six bikes (only one is a dirt bike so not licensed) and three cars yet can only drive or ride one each at a time! I would rather pay it through the petrol, then everyone pays the same amount no matter how many vehicles they own.

[heavenly.talker]

So true CaN!

Really like the idea of raising the acc levy of cars by $5 bugjuice. Although I would get stung by that too...but considering that most cars are the perpetrators of bike accidents it seems fair to me.

I like the way you's think

[madboy]

It's a shame the proverbial "they" aren't able to come up with a fairer way of funding ACC. Look at skiing, mountain biking and off-road bikes. None pay anything in ACC levies, but plenty of ACC funds are directed that way. And as the learned few point out here - it's often not the motorcyclists fault, yet they still get shot by the stats. It's easier to just whack a tax onto the nice lawful road riding community who are willing to pay it.

I guess that's the system, and short of not maintaing current registration on a bike (I'm not admitting nothin here), there's not a lot we can do about it.

[What?]

That's the grandest thing about ACC, madboy - if you hurt yourself in the act of operating an unlicensed motor vehicle, you are still covered. See, ACC is NOT user pays, which is how they manage to calculate different levies for different groups of people...

[madboy]

No one ever accused life of being fair. I pay more income tax than most in society, I pay a fair whack of GST, a fair whack of petrol tax that I don't see the benefits of, because I'm white and "rich" and choose to go to the GP in the "rich white" area that I was brought up in I pay shedloads... so I've got no moral problem with operating an unlicensed motor vehicle. Would do it on the cars too if they were capable of avoiding the taxman like the bike can.

[Rhino]

It's a shame the proverbial "they" aren't able to come up with a fairer way of funding ACC. Look at skiing, mountain biking and off-road bikes. None pay anything in ACC levies, but plenty of ACC funds are directed that way. And as the learned few point out here - it's often not the motorcyclists fault, yet they still get shot by the stats. It's easier to just whack a tax onto the nice lawful road riding community who are willing to pay it.

BRONZ and Ulysses NZ both have good dialogue going on with ACC regarding levies. Maybe we should try and get submissions from KB put through one of these groups.

This would mean someone here organising and correlating comments from KBers, that could then be passed on to either club.

[The Stranger:Me]

Don't worry you comments will get back to BRONZ and yes submissions will be made by BRONZ.

Hopefully though, the more submissions they get the more they listen.
The squeeky wheel gets the oil etc.