Stainless steel brakelines

[cowpoos]

All big poos

what u doin using me name as slag chick man....shesssssh....rooster

[judgeshock]

Crimped rubber lines are O.K. But crimped steel lines are no good. Some snaking money-grubbing non-motorcycling office-wallah in Wellington says so. What a total crock of shit. The prats don't even know steel lines ARE rubber lines. With an outer steel sheath to stop expansion. But they know best.

The actual line being used for brakelines is a teflon liner with a s/s braid on the outer. This is how you get the harder feeling whilst braking.

The teflon doesnt flex much, can handle pretty much any fluid put through it and handles 262ºc

Unfortunately in nz theres not too many people i know that carry after market rubber hosing that can handle brakefluid.

[number33]

Yeah, rubber, plastic, teflon inside, I want to know what their problem with the braided steel casing is. They told me it's only because the banjo's are crimped on , not screwed on. Then in the same breath, they're saying crimped rubber hoses are fine. Here's a pic of each. They're telling me the rubbers banjo is O.K. but the steel's isn't. Why pick on only the steel cased? It's bullshit.

[Motu]

As I've mentioned a couple of times on this thread - it's because people can now make their own or import hoses themselves - brake hoses are very high on LTNZs safety priority,brake hoses HAVE to be controled....it could be your life,but who gives a fuck about that eh?

[NordieBoy]

brake hoses are very high on LTNZs safety priority,brake hoses HAVE to be controled....it could be your life,but who gives a fuck about that eh?

So everyone should carry a spare.

[Ixion]

Well, they all have to be crimped somewhere, because you can't put a decent thread on rubber or teflon.

But the VIRM doesn't say crimped is forbidden. It says they have to be to a recognised standard. Which as Mr Motu points out , is fair enough. Otherwise I could set up making shoddy but look good lines in my basement. Until one bursts and someone dies.

Like the saying says, it's all good fun until someone loses a hymen.

[number33]

I'm not having a go at anyone here, but look, competent people have been making brake lines for years. What's all of a sudden different now? Idiots can't make brake lines. The fairyland idea that all sorts of strange bastards are slapping together brake lines in their backyards, distributing them all over the country, whereupon they'll all burst and explode at any minute - is fucken crap. A brake hose either works or it doesn't. All a warrant tester need do is slam them brakes 1/2 dozen times - HARD. People need to get their heads out of the clouds.

Condemning hundreds or thousands of PERFECTLY GOOD brake hoses overnight is just a fucken scam. All because some slack assed pimply faced warrant tester didn't pick up on Joe Blows fucked hoses, and Joe Blow ran off the road. A fancy $250 tag with fancy numbers don't mean Jack shit. I bet more 'certified' hoses have crapped out more than any amount of 'unofficial' hoses. How many instances of suddenly bursting brakes occour in any year? Sweet F.A. if any. Regulations, regulations and more fucken P.C regulations. Regulations on regulations. These tut-tutting official twerps are way out of touch with the real world.

Bow ya heads to them like sheep to the slaughter if you're so inclined. Agree with their every word. Good luck to ya.

[Paul in NZ]

I agree with your sentiments #33 but...

The way to go is to challenge it legally. I'll bet a sack full of clubbed seal pups that some slick marketting type at a hose company has seen an opportunity and is spreading rumour and mis information to sell more of his product.

This sort of shit quickly becomes fact....

Does anyone actually know of someone whos crimped line failed? No... Probably an urban myth.

Cheers

[Ixion]

I'm not having a go at anyone here, but look, competent people have been making brake lines for years. What's all of a sudden different now? Idiots can't make brake lines. ..

Well, idiots can make dodgy hydraulic and air lines, cos I've seen 'em. Some of the work turned out by those mobile hydrulic vans was dodgy as. Some really good ones too, and even the not good ones mde good hoses most of the time. Just sometimes they botched it (used to work in a business that went through a lot). Not so different for brake lines , they're just hydraulic lines, low pressure at that.

I don't understand where all the crap about rubber and braided and swaged and screwed comes from. VIRM manual doesn't say anything about that. Same rules for rubber and braided.

[Motu]

It's because they are not OE,that's where we are going...being pushed along by the likes of boy racers.The way the WoF regulations are going is Euro standards,the vehicle is complied at manufacter,or on importation,and that's the way it will stay thank you very much - and the onus is being switched to the owner of the vehicle to keep it to that standard.Our vehicle regs are a mish mash from over 60 yrs making a rule here and a rule there - soon there will be one rule...compliance.

[number33]

Compliance be fucked.

[dhunt]

It's because they are not OE,that's where we are going...being pushed along by the likes of boy racers.

Hey Motu, this seems a bit odd, boy racers putting aftermarket brake lines? Surely not!

I go to a place out bulls way to my WoF, they don't have any problems with my brake lines not having some funny numbers stamped on them. All they cared about was did they work and was there enough meat on the pads.