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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    I wasn't being a dick, I had a pillion to look after. My only crime was doing a little over the pathetic motorway speed limit.
    Sorry mate, but it sounds like you need to pull your head in. The law is the law and if you don't like it then don't ride. Just because you have a nice new fast bike does not mean you are exempt whenever you see fit. We all cross the line every now and then, its our decision to make but we also have to accept the consequences if we get caught. We don't however have the right to make that decision for our pillions (especially for the sake of some lame TV show) and I guess this is what caught the ambo drivers attention. Can't blame him either, if I saw some looney with a chick on the back I'd be concerned too (even if you were only blatting along the straight, he wouldn't know any better) - the only difference is that the ambo driver can do something about it. When your job is all about saving lives, raining on the odd parade is a small price to pay. Better safe than sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoon
    Sorry mate, but it sounds like you need to pull your head in. The law is the law and if you don't like it then don't ride. Just because you have a nice new fast bike does not mean you are exempt whenever you see fit. We all cross the line every now and then, its our decision to make but we also have to accept the consequences if we get caught. We don't however have the right to make that decision for our pillions (especially for the sake of some lame TV show) and I guess this is what caught the ambo drivers attention. Can't blame him either, if I saw some looney with a chick on the back I'd be concerned too (even if you were only blatting along the straight, he wouldn't know any better) - the only difference is that the ambo driver can do something about it. When your job is all about saving lives, raining on the odd parade is a small price to pay. Better safe than sorry.
    What relevance does my choice of bike have to do with this?

    I wasn't caught, I was advised that it was reported I was travelling rather rapidly. It did not stop me and nor will it stop me in the future, I slowed when I sighted the cop as I normally would. I ride to the conditions and put my pillion's safety first at all times. They know that which is why they will continue to ride with me.

    You immediately assume I'm a looney because I was going over 100km/h with a chick on the back?

    I think we should all be allowed to be responsible for our own actions, the ambo reporting me did absolutely nothing to change my riding it just resulted in the very nice bike cop pulling me over and having a word. If I get a ticket I get a ticket, that I can accept but it hasn't happened yet because I'm pretty cautious about when and where I speed, a quiet motorway in the late evening with good visibility, I should be shot, as opposed ot all these assholes who continue to hammer it around built up areas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    I was riding home from the Kaiua chip shop with my lovely young pillion on the back last night, So, here I was cranking it up the southern between Pokeno and Papakura at a fairly brisk pace.
    I would be more curious to know if your pillion has any riding gear yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    It did not stop me and nor will it stop me in the future,
    exactly why ticketing, and not warnings, slow people down

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    I think we should all be allowed to be responsible for our own actions, the ambo reporting me did absolutely nothing to change my riding it just resulted in the very nice bike cop pulling me over and having a word. If I get a ticket I get a ticket, that I can accept but it hasn't happened yet because I'm pretty cautious about when and where I speed, a quiet motorway in the late evening with good visibility, I should be shot, as opposed ot all these assholes who continue to hammer it around built up areas!
    so be responsible, take your warning, and stop your fucking moaning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    but can't they let us adults take responsibility
    Adult ...fuck me...heard it all now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8
    I would be more curious to know if your pillion has any riding gear yet?
    Different pillion but fair point. I always gear them up as much as possible but it's not always possible to put them in full leathers.

    Go on crucify away! Ya know you want to but don't be hypocrits now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juzzer
    Adult ...fuck me...heard it all now....
    I meant in a legal sense you buffoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty
    exactly why ticketing, and not warnings, slow people down
    Hasn't helped the road toll though, has it. Check the figures for Aucklands toll in particular. Spare us the propaganda.
    Speed doesn't kill people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    Different pillion but fair point. I always gear them up as much as possible but it's not always possible to put them in full leathers.

    Go on crucify away! Ya know you want to but don't be hypocrits now.
    I have no opinion on the speeding or the Ambo part... I have had enough speeding tickets,sunday i was on the back road that goes down to Te Awamutu etc and at least 2 times cars flashing their lights saved me from maybe getting a ticket...cruising speed only 120/130 kph,not doing any harm in my eyes..of course flashing red and blues normally brings back reality. .... As far speeding in general i think once you have a quota system there is pressure to perform,just dishing out tickets will not lower the RoadToll...and was more than aware of that as i sat behind a FWD with parents and kids in it on the road out to the coast..winding road,,cutting every corner.

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    Never really agree with the dobbing in thing. Especially over something as subjective as speed. Think about it .(EDIT: In the general case - ) Someone going the OTHER direction , who maybe is 100 years old, thinks you're speeding, and dobs you in. And a cop gives you a ticket based on the uneducated , untrained opinion of an unknown person - not even going the same way? (I know he didn't ticket in this case) .Dodgy, to say the least.

    (EDIT - In the particular instance cited )
    In this case Mr The_Dover may have been speeding (or may not - no point admitting anything), but even if he was , who is some ambo driver to judge? And what business is it of his. I don't buy the "oh they have to clean up the mess " argument. Pedestrians get knocked down and killed because they don't look before crossing the road (happened to an ambo driver a while back!). Should drivers start dobbing in pedestrians who don't appear to be paying enough attention when walking along the footpath ?

    People get killed when driving or riding at legal speeds. So on the basis of the "we don't want to have to scrape you off the road" , should ambos be entitled to reduce everyone to 5kph? So as to make sure that we're always going to be safe.

    And what about non road fatalities. People get killed hang gliding. Rock climbing. Swimming. Are ambos (or anyone else for that matter) going to want to stop anyone they see doing those things too, cos people might die doing them ?
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    Is it 100% confirmed that it was SpeedMedic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehollowmen
    Is it 100% confirmed that it was SpeedMedic?
    No it was not Speedmedic. It would have been someone on Brown watch (SM and myself are on Blue).

    We don't go around dobbing other drivers in as a matter of course - it would have to be something exceptional for us to do that (and I'm talking about all ambos here).

    I'm reserving judgement until I can find out who rang and what their reason was. There's two sides to every story, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marty
    exactly why ticketing, and not warnings, slow people down
    Speak for yourself. I have had a couple of warnings in the past and it woke me up. If it wasn't for a couple of nice coppers giving me warnings (around 10 years ago), I would have been walking for 6 months at the time. Pinged 4 times in a period of 6 weeks. I was bloody paranoid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    Hasn't helped the road toll though, has it. Check the figures for Aucklands toll in particular. Spare us the propaganda.
    i said it slows them down, didn't say it stops them being killed. i'm getting sick of people complaining when discretion is used, and still complaining when it isn't. i look after myself - i don't give a shit about the propaganda. i've had to take my medicine in the recent past, but you haven't seen me bleating and crying like a spoilt brat on here, have you?

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    IMO - Thumbs up to the cop, sounds like he was a good guy about it all. As for the ambo driver, I cant see him taking time out from "heading south, lights on" to call in someone going in the opposite direction (I'm assuming seperated from him by a barrier?) at a "fairly brisk pace" unless that pace was more brisk than fairly.

    If he was just sticking his nose in when Dover was just going at a, shall we say, slightly-over-the-limit-but-still-just-cruising speed, then the ambo dude needs to pull his head in. However, if Dover was doing speeds more along the lines of "OMG the world is gonna end if I miss Sports Cafe" while carrying a pillion that was wearing obviously substandard protective gear, then good on the guy - and Dover, take the coppers warning and consider yourself lucky. I would.

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