Turning Right into a road with vehicles waiting to turn right

[DMNTD:Me]

Personally I give way to anything bigger than me. This rule is one of those gray rules where it is not always clear when and where to practice it and I think often causes more confusion than help. Therefore I follow the first rule and try and not get hit.

I'm exactly the same due to others personal interpretation of the law.
Rather piss someone off behind me than get squished

[Korumba]

Worst corner for this up here is Cameron & John Streets
You can sit in Rynoz Bar and be well entertained. Most Bike riders get it right, and about one in 20 cars.

[Jamiepo]

Okay my GF works at a mall here in CHCH and this problem has croped up a fair few times. Car 1 has right of way, therefore car 3 should be free to go as well except that car 2 legally has right of way over car 3 so can car 3 go or does it have to wait for car 1 to turn then car 2 to turn??

[TwoSeven]

The way I was taught give way rules in the UK (most apply here) is that the vehicle breaking the centerline must give way. In the case of both cars both doing right turns. The car pulling out of the side turn must give way - this is because that car is not obstructing a main thrufare.

The reason is, the car parked in the center of the road (the top car) is placing itself as a hazard to other traffic that is travelling in a straight line, so it needs to clear that area as soon as possible (not all side turnings are marked with a turning lane). When I did my advanced driving course, I was told that I should use the vehicle to control the intersection, that means you drive in front of the other vehicle to stop it pulling out (in the pic above, car 2 should stop in front of car 1)

The other reason, is that if you were to pull out of the intersection in front of a car waiting to make a right turn (car 1 pulling out in front of car 2), its likely you might get t-boned by a car that was hidden by the one you are driving in front of (a car may undertake car 2 on the inside or in the non-passing lane).

They also draw the turning lane intersection markings (car 2s lane) in a silly way here to increase the confusion -- I think the top markings stop 5 feet too short, they should come to the middle of the intersection, not the start of the intersection

[MacD]

The way I was taught give way rules in the UK (most apply here) is that the vehicle breaking the centerline must give way. In the case of both cars both doing right turns. The car pulling out of the side turn must give way - this is because that car is not obstructing a main thrufare.

Nope, sorry, that rule went the way of the Dodo here in about 1977. As I said above, there is no major/minor road rule these days.

The similar rule to this in NZ is that if you follow a road around a corner, through a V intersection for example, and the centreline follows the corner, you are technically not turning. If you cross the centreline, then you are turning.

[Ixion]

Okay my GF works at a mall here in CHCH and this problem has croped up a fair few times. Car 1 has right of way, therefore car 3 should be free to go as well except that car 2 legally has right of way over car 3 so can car 3 go or does it have to wait for car 1 to turn then car 2 to turn??

Simple enough. 3 gives way to 2 (left turn gives way to right); who gives way to 1 (both turning right, give way to your right).

If 3 can complete his turn before 2 is able to turn, he may do so.No different to if 2 had arrived a few seconds later. Failure to do so before 2 is ready to go, be it on his own head

The rules really are very simple. It's all in the Road Code. With pictures even

[zooter]

Nope, sorry, that rule went the way of the Dodo here in about 1977. As I said above, there is no major/minor road rule these days.

The similar rule to this in NZ is that if you follow a road around a corner, through a V intersection for example, and the centreline follows the corner, you are technically not turning. If you cross the centreline, then you are turning.

Mac D you should read the mans signature and then you'd know you're wasting your time trying to educate him with rules

Plain and simple version:
If it's not on a Give Way and would hit you on your right side you must give way to it. If you're turning and the other isn't , give way

[pritch]

Ok in this senario, no one ever gives way.

Too true.

When I was driving a bus in another life there was one particular run I dreaded, partly because of the pressure, partly because of the class of the clientele. Two corners involved this exact situation, in both instances I had right of way but this was virtually never conceded. I hate to be too predictable but by about Thursday I would insist.

Outraged indignation wouldn't come close to describing the reaction.

I have also shown this diagram to the staff at work, the males all got it right, the females, with only 2 older exceptions got it wrong. (Those 2 had recently had teenagers sitting licences.) One would have thought the law of averages would suggest that at least half the females would have got it right even if they were guessing. Still can't figure that out....

[Lou Girardin]

My personal favourite is the supermarket exit scenario, where drivers turning right into the supermarket won't give way because they're on the 'main road'.

[XP@]

Will do it unless it is too goddam scarry to stop...
like when a car is up yer arse and you havn't worked out wtf it is about to do next.