Selling a bike/car

[SuperDave]

Thought maybe someone on here will be able to clear this up for me.

I sold my FXR a good month or so ago and I as the seller, I filled in my seller's form and gave it in like a good citizen to the post office within 7 days of selling the bike. The buyer on the other hand HAS STILL NOT filled in his purchasers form and gone into the post office to show his ID.

Now I've heard different stories from people, some say I may still be liable for fines/crimes commited on the bike etc. Others say I have met my obligation and there's nothing more for me to do.

Could someone please comfirm to me where I stand with this?

Thanks

[judgeshock]

If you have sent in your part of the form you will be alright. Probably quite good if you got a receipt from the post office at the time also.

If you are concerned im sure their must be someone you can ring and confirm that your part of the form has been received.

[bugjuice]

Now I've heard different stories from people, some say I may still be liable for fines/crimes commited on the bike etc. Others say I have met my obligation and there's nothing more for me to do.

both right. There's nothing more to do as far as the registration is concerned, but you can give the new owner some grief and tell them to get their arse into gear. Until they do, someone has to be accountable for the vehicle, and until they have a new address and owner details, that'll be you.

Get on the blower, tell them to sort their act out first thing tomorrow. It'll be hell to get thru court if they get a ticket for anything, or worse, be involved with some hit n run or something, cos it'll be your name up first

[kerryg]

Have you got some other evidence that the sale took place (such as a proper bill of sale?). If you have you're probably OK even if the buyer doesn't do his end of things but anyway I'd be up at the Post Shop pronto seeing what I could do to cover myself if I were you. A few years ago I got stuck with a guy's tickets for a bike I sold in exactly the circumstances you described (I did my bit, he didn't do his) so unless it has changed you are at some risk if you do nothing

[Ixion]

Until the buyer fronts up, you are liable in the first instance. Which is why the LTSA say you shouldn't release the vehicle until you see the receipty thingy for the buyers transfer. Which is not really always practical.

But, you have an out, since speeding tickets etc you can supply the name of the driver - so if you get something in the mail , send it back with the buyers name and address.

The Post Office (or LTSA , one or other) will send the buyer a nasty letter after the prescribed period telling him to pull finger.

There's nothing more you can do , except lean on teh buyer if you know where he is.

[SuperDave]

I know the buyers full name and address as well as his mobile number. I contacted him last week friday asking him to get this done and to mail me the receipt in the post - no receit as yet.

I went to the post office prior to posting my first post. The woman there asked me what my address was and after telling her she said it does not come up on the computer. The buyers name however is on their computer.

I want to fone the buyer and bitch to him but in all fairness I cannot force this dude to do anything. I can only ask him. A friend mentioned I can still get the rego terminated as he is not really the new owner - is this true?

I really want to phone this guy and threaten to cancel the registration if he doesn't go in and put down his details but I don't want to make a threat I cannot undertake.

[avgas]

you officially still own the bike - so you can pick it up....and its not stealing....remind the new owner about this and you will never see anyone still fill out the form so fast

[DMNTD:Me]

Mate go and take the plates off the vehicle as soon as ya can.
You'll be surprised how fast they'll get their A into G
Has happed to me in the past...it isn't cool when ya get the speed camera tickets in the mail...ggggrrrrrr!!! I sorted it but a real pain in the arse

[R6_kid:Me]

stop being nice dave, he might think your gay... but then if he does, and you go around it might just get his 'ass into gear'

[kro]

The buyer is liable for fines for not changing the ownership, the same thing happened to me, and when i rung them and told them they were liable, they changed it on the day.

I found this out from a senior seargent friend of mine, he knows the law.

[Colapop]

The LTSA is your one stop shop for this problem. We had our car stolen recently (we've got the insurance money thankfully) and the first thing my wife did was get things sorted with the LTSA, so any fines etc incurred are not attributed to you as the owner. The same stands (to my knowledge) for a sold vehicle. Either way if the guy does not want to play ball you can register it with the LTSA as stolen. My missus works for the AA and they would be another avenue to check out. (beware she'll try and sell you an AA membership though!!) :eyepoke: Owww! She's looking over my shoulder.
But if the vehicle is already showing on the computer as being registered in the new owners name ie. address there shouldn't be any problems.

[bugjuice]

I want to fone the buyer and bitch to him but in all fairness I cannot force this dude to do anything. I can only ask him. A friend mentioned I can still get the rego terminated as he is not really the new owner - is this true?

err - ya can, and should bitch to him. It's you on the line here, so it's down to you and how much you want to stop stressing that you've got a ticket in the mail..

as for the latter thing, I have no idea. Could be an interesting avenue. But if you do, he'll get pulled, you'll still get sent the reminder and court notice when he doesn't pay up for the on-the-spot fine..