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    Two strokes are the devil!

    well that sentence could be wrong, but as it says in my "bike:" thing, I've got an RG150

    Here's the thing. Mostly I hear of dirt bike engines being rebuilt left, right, up, down, and centre. so I wonder, should I not ride my bike as hard? I tend to be full throttle most of the time, doesnt help much that it's not a fast bike. Should I modulate throttle more and cruise a little more?

    And slightly off topic, had a go on a mates nsr250. just a quick one, noticed it was a lot more forgiving and easier to go faster. Plus he was keeping up with me easy while I was having 5c-50c moments. I've had 1000kms under me belt and it was he's first road but been on dirt a while.

    I played the 'run' over and over in my head and realised my mistakes. Now, rider error aside, is there that much difference tween the two bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strat
    well that sentence could be wrong, but as it says in my "bike:" thing, I've got an RG150

    Here's the thing. Mostly I hear of dirt bike engines being rebuilt left, right, up, down, and centre. so I wonder, should I not ride my bike as hard? I tend to be full throttle most of the time, doesnt help much that it's not a fast bike. Should I modulate throttle more and cruise a little more?

    And slightly off topic, had a go on a mates nsr250. just a quick one, noticed it was a lot more forgiving and easier to go faster. Plus he was keeping up with me easy while I was having 5c-50c moments. I've had 1000kms under me belt and it was he's first road but been on dirt a while.

    I played the 'run' over and over in my head and realised my mistakes. Now, rider error aside, is there that much difference tween the two bikes?

    Two strokes GOOD. What's the problem. Your mate's bike is nearly double the size of yours. Naturally it's a lot faster. 150 two smoker will go fast enough. Ask Mr Two Smoker, he keeps them up there with 600s. Wring the neck off it, it's how they're meant to be ridden.
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    I meant more the cornering performance. I felt like I was able to hold more speed easier etc. It just felt a whole lot nicer, and my stupid n00b movements didnt upset it too much.
    I like my bike, and I like the fact it 'feel's less forgiving -teach me better habits hopefully, but I wondered if there is in fact that much difference between the bikes.

    Im guessing the engines in road bikes aren't as highly strung as the dirt ones then Ixion?

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    read my lips

    2 strokes god err good 4 stokes bad .....

    the pumping efficiency of a 2 stoke is better than a 4 stroke

    and anyone who lives in californicate ,,,I hope you like hugging trees ..( largest market hence the move towards the wasted stroke )

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    I LUUURVE my 2 stroke. How could you not? I love the smell and the sound If Id known what I know now, I would have bought the KR instead of the GN originally. Its easier to ride and just goes better. I have filled my bike up at least 8-10 times and the oil levels been fine . . .


    :spudwave: Oh sorry did I forget to mention that I like two strokes?
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    your "n00b movements" that were "upsetting the bike" is actually a mark of how much twichier and responsive to input a 150 is over a 250. I went from a KR150 to an RGV250 and although the RGV does feel faster and smoother in the corners it doesn't have the same feel of 'if something goes wrong i'll be able to avoid it' as the KR did.

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    There is nothing wrong with 2 strokes mate. I owned an RG400 and that was a great bike, I wish I still had it. I see what you are saying by asking about cornering performance and the difference in dirt bikes ect.

    Road and dirt bikes main simularity is that they both have 2 wheels. After that they branch off on different tracks. I once had a MotoX racer tell me that in dirt bike riding, there are so many different skills to road riding. The main one is, you can always notice a seasoned MotoX/Dirt rider when he moves to a street bike. They are the only ones who will put their foot out around a corner. As for cornering, you mate has an NSR, of course its going to be faster and corner better, thats what it is built for.

    Ride safe mate and don't worry about how fast the others are going, just plan on getting there ON the bike.
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    Yeah, at the end of the day the NSR was a 250 proddy racebike for the road. It was fitted with stiff frame great suspension & modern wheels & tires.

    Your bike, let’s face it, is built to a lower price by quite a considerable margin & hence it isn’t going to handle go or stop as well. You pays your money & all that.

    But as above, don’t despair. Spending time on small bikes perfecting riding technique is likely to help your riding more than being on something with enough power to make you lazy. Ride safe.
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    How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie
    How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?

    Yep. T500 was a real good un. The 350 yammies were brilliant too.
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    My RZ350 was grouse fun. Should have made a TZR400 or 500 twin withmodern suspension brakes etc
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    :eyepoke: two strokes rock mate dont know what your unhappy about if you dont like it you can always get an FXR then weigh up the kind of performance you get outta that compared to the RG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie
    How many KBers who where priviledged enough to own two strokes over 250cc still think they are among the more enjoyable bikes they owned?
    I miss my old RZ500. Now that was a 2-stroke..
    Used to foul the odd plug around town, never got out of first gear down Colombo Street (ChCh)....used fuel and oil at an alarming rate but WHAT A SOUND !!! V-4 2 stroke sound can't be beaten !!!!

    damn, whats that mess on the carpet under me....??!!


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    Oops seems I upset a few people. To clarrify, I do love my bike, and 2 strokes are damn fun. the devil comment was made by my wallet mostly. The gas it chews, oil it requires, and the subsequent repair/maintenance on the engine.

    But all that aside, it brings a big grin to my dial!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strat
    Oops seems I upset a few people. To clarrify, I do love my bike, and 2 strokes are damn fun. the devil comment was made by my wallet mostly. The gas it chews, oil it requires, and the subsequent repair/maintenance on the engine.

    But all that aside, it brings a big grin to my dial!
    What the hell are you doing to it if it costs you heaps of money and needs repairs all the time? I had an RG150 for four years, did around 23,000kms on it and it was only towards the end that the power valve started giving me trouble - until then it was a dream. I regularly topped it up with oil after a ride (or during a long one) but that's just what you do with a two stroke like that. As for chewing through gas - I won the 0-250cc class in our club's economy run with mine, got about 23kpl from memory, which I didn't think was too bad. And it never had any work on the engine and I used to ride it virtually every day.

    If anyone was going to wreck an RG150 you'd expect it to be a learner rider as I was when I bought it, but it served me very well and is still going today. I thought it was the most fun bike I'd ever ridden until I bought the Goose.
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