who can test you for your full bike licence

**Rashika** · 15th February 2006, 09:31

Question: is it legal for someone who DOES NOT have a motorcycle licence to take someone for their full bike licence test?
And then fail them for a perhaps dodgy call of too high speed on the road?

A friend of a friend has had that happen to him yesterday.... The tester said he didn't have a licence but took him for the test anyway??? Is this correct?

**Sniper** · 15th February 2006, 09:39

Thats not right. I thought ALL testers had to have a full license with a special endorsment. I was told that when I did my full

**Rashika** · 15th February 2006, 09:49

ta sniper I will pass that on to him.
I was kinda taken back when I was told about it this morning.
The tester didn't normally take bikes, but the person who did was away. What I dont get is why they didn't reschedule his test? Instead of doing a maybe dodgy fail...seems like a moneymaking exercise to me.

**pritch** · 15th February 2006, 10:44

I've emailed someone to get a definitive answer, but we do have experts within KB.

While it would not be unduly burdensome for a tester to have a motorcycle licence, that might not be the case for some of the less common classes of licence: truck and trailer, Tracked vehicles, bus, taxi, etc. It may not be practical for someone to hold all those licences. The tester has to (used to?) have a specific licence to test. Maybe that licence covers all classes?

I'm sure we will have an authoritative answer soon enough.

**Rashika** · 15th February 2006, 11:27

Originally Posted by pritch008

I've emailed someone to get a definitive answer, but we do have experts within KB.

While it would not be unduly burdensome for a tester to have a motorcycle licence, that might not be the case for some of the less common classes of licence: truck and trailer, Tracked vehicles, bus, taxi, etc. It may not be practical for someone to hold all those licences. The tester has to (used to?) have a specific licence to test. Maybe that licence covers all classes?

I'm sure we will have an authoritative answer soon enough.

Ta for that

Would be interesting to see what the answer actually is.
I can understand that it may be difficult to have a licence for all classes, but would have thought that having the main ones like car, bike, HT would be a requirement for most testers anyway?
Sounds like my friend is getting a bit of a runaround from the testing place at the moment, he has made a complaint about it, and is not really getting an answer...yet anyway.

**crashe** · 15th February 2006, 11:39

Contact your local AA testing station and ask them...
As they are the ones who do these tests..

Just ring them up and do a general enquiry (for yourself lol)

Or you could PM our local cops on the site and ask them the rules.

**Swoop** · 15th February 2006, 12:01

Have been speaking to a workmate who is involved with testing.
The licence tester (examiner) must have an endorsement to their licence as#1 an examiner, and ALSO #2 must hold that licence class which is being examined.

Hope this helps.

**magicfairy** · 15th February 2006, 12:11

Originally Posted by Swoop

must have an endorsement to their licence as# an examiner, and ALSO #2 must hold that licence class which is being examined.

I seemed to remember a thread some months ago on this subject, and I think (but am not sure) that the exception was motorcycle licensing, the examiner did not have to have license.
But I could be wrong of course

**Rashika** · 15th February 2006, 12:38

Originally Posted by magicfairy

I seemed to remember a thread some months ago on this subject, and I think (but am not sure) that the exception was motorcycle licensing, the examiner did not have to have license.
But I could be wrong of course

hmmm...been hunting but cant find a thread about it, yet anyway.

**Krusti** · 15th February 2006, 12:45

Years ago when I was a testing officer for the MOT....I was able to test for any class of license forklifts etc included. Had to be able to pass all written tests myself but was not given license. Even had to pay for my HT myself.

So .. no they don't have to hold the license.

Hope this helps.....

Signed......"reformed snake"

**pritch** · 15th February 2006, 12:56

My expert, a former Senior Chief traffic Officer/ Police inspector replied as follows:

Testing Officers have to have a Testing Officers Class of licence it is Class 0

They do not have to hold the class they are testing for though most of us did, not sure about current testers now.

**Rashika** · 15th February 2006, 13:41

Originally Posted by pritch008

My expert, a former Senior Chief traffic Officer/ Police inspector replied as follows:

Testing Officers have to have a Testing Officers Class of licence it is Class 0

They do not have to hold the class they are testing for though most of us did, not sure about current testers now.

Thanks for that!

amazing that they dont HAVE to hold the class really! That does surprise me.

**Motu** · 15th February 2006, 14:15

But they have to hold Testing Officers Class - I don't know that entails,but I don't think every Cop has one.

**Ixion** · 15th February 2006, 14:18

Originally Posted by magicfairy

I seemed to remember a thread some months ago on this subject, and I think (but am not sure) that the exception was motorcycle licensing, the examiner did not have to have license.
But I could be wrong of course

Just so. Absurd though it is. The thread was http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14598

Post #48 in particular.