TV - The Greatest Ever Motorcycles

**The_Dover** · 25th November 2005, 07:00

Originally Posted by Krayy

Bugger me, I'll stand up, tell a joke and insult some people every night for that sort of garage.

I'm working on it mate, I've just gotta stop crashing the fuckers..

**Motu** · 25th November 2005, 07:17

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

So where were the motorcross and ag bikes? Surely if they can make the Cub No.1, then there are definitely Ag's and MX's that deserve their place it that list.

Just because dirt bikes outsell road bikes that's no reason to include them...is it.?

Kenny Roberts was standing at a MX track,obviously there's no stopping the King!

OK - The Rickman Metisse....the garden shed bike that turned into a legend.

1970 BSA 500,as ridden by Jeff Smith,the highest development of the 4 stroke MXer,until Husky came back 20 yrs later and rewrote history.

Husky TC510 - The 4 stroke MXer that rewrote history,all the 4 stroke dirt bikes we have now flow directly from this bike,until then no one could make a 4 stroke as light as a 2 stroke.

Yamaha DT1 250 - the bike that started the dirt bike revolution,a bike you could take trail riding,motocross,enduro,commuting around town and go places,a real alrounder.As big a history changer as the CB750.

Bultaco Sherpa T - Sammy Millar stepped off GOV132,his 500cc 4 stroke and went to work for Senor Bulto,and 40 yrs later you still ride a 2 stroke trials bike.

Yamaha YZ490 - put more people into 7 wire fences than any other bike known to mankind.

**tracyprier** · 25th November 2005, 07:46

Originally Posted by buellbabe

Yeah totally agree, but in the end the bike with the highest volume of sales got the crown.... go figure!
I get teary eyed every time I watch the video and Stroud pulls a wheelie alongside the Ducati
Yee-fuckin'-ha!

Yeah me too. We lost a great'un.

**Yokai** · 25th November 2005, 08:18

Originally Posted by kronos

That Y2K is quite unique, the sound is impressive. ROFL at Jay Leno melting the cars front bumper, and their stunt rider drag racing a jet.

The start-up of that bike was an overdub.. My mate and I were watching it last night, he's an ex-sound engineer... He's like "Ooh this'll be interesting, I wonder how they... OH.. overdub. boring..."

That said teh Y2K is a stupid, nuts bike, even the manufacturer reckons so...

Of course, this programme was always gonna be subjective... "best chopper" is on next week, and they haven't even interviewed me!

**F5 Dave** · 25th November 2005, 08:36

Yeah the experts I was thinking who are these dumb arse yanks? We missed the start in the pub. Oh hold on, one is Kevin Cameron, Cycle mag tech writer now Cycle World (check out his sportbike book v.good). That shut me up a bit, then KR, he’s ridden a bike I hear. & Mat Oxley, journalist & ex world endurance dude, won a championship I think.

But Jay Leno!! Who the hell is he? Why is his involvement so valued, all he is is rich.

**ManDownUnder** · 25th November 2005, 08:43

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

But Jay Leno!! Who the hell is he? Why is his involvement so valued, all he is is rich.

and celebrity petrol head that collects cars (dunno about bikes) but seems to have a good grasp of what's actually happening when you pour the power on

**ManDownUnder** · 25th November 2005, 08:45

Originally Posted by sixpackback

I found the show insulting to our collective biker intelligence.

but but but... they're experts - and they made a show about it - how could we EVER question their conclusions.

They even dropped the cub from a building! I mean that really proves something (like how desperate for rating they are)

MDU

**F5 Dave** · 25th November 2005, 08:46

I think it'd been far funnier to drop the Harley!

Oooh! do you think we should try another?

**riffer** · 25th November 2005, 09:13

Originally Posted by Yokai

"best chopper" is on next week...

Oh well, the Captain America bike will win that hands down.

**N4CR** · 25th November 2005, 09:34

Originally Posted by Yokai

The start-up of that bike was an overdub.. My mate and I were watching it last night, he's an ex-sound engineer... He's like "Ooh this'll be interesting, I wonder how they... OH.. overdub. boring..."

That said teh Y2K is a stupid, nuts bike, even the manufacturer reckons so...

Yeah I noticed the overdub... the real video that was posted on here a week or two ago is not an o/dub... sounds amazing!

Nuts... not stupid

**vifferman** · 25th November 2005, 09:49

Originally Posted by Aiolos

I agree with most of the choices. Sure, the Britten was fantasmical, but should it have been number 1? No way.
The Y2K is bullshit though.

Indeed. And they all said so too! They all said "This bike is bullshit, pointless, blah blah blah..", even Jay Leno. So why was it ranked so highly?!?
And given that it wasn't as innovative or well-designed as the Britten, AND cost $US185,000 (!!), it should've been lower down the scale.

While I understand the reasoning behind the Vespa and Cub being in the list, they're not freaking motorcycles! Yes, Soichiro Honda revolutionised things with his bikes, and 40 million is a lot of scooters, but so what?
They had the first superbike (the K1 750) so they didn't need another Honda in there. They should've stuck a Vincent Black Shadow and MV Agusta in instead. Or some outstanding 2-smoke. (Is there / was there one?)

Heh - made me laugh (or swear, or summat..) when that dude was raving on about how much the Triumph Bonneville shakes. He's obviously never seen a Harley at idle - even the rider shakes!

**F5 Dave** · 25th November 2005, 10:01

Originally Posted by vifferman

. .. Or some outstanding 2-smoke. (Is there / was there one?). .

Wash your mouth out with soap you heathen! Pah! Erm, every real race bike, FIM cheat rules aside..

Originally Posted by vifferman

Heh - made me laugh (or swear, or summat..) when that dude was raving on about how much the Triumph Bonneville shakes.

Yeah the statement was:
This bike is badly designed, stretched from a 500 ‘cause the poms were too tight todevelop a new engine. Turner also screwed up as the valve gear missed & had an offset on the forces operating them making them wear guides quicker.
But at least they weren't made of 'Shit metal' like those rice burners. . . They were just badly made out of pig iron.

**Ixion** · 25th November 2005, 10:12

Originally Posted by vifferman

... Or some outstanding 2-smoke. (Is there / was there one?)

..

TZ350. T250. T500 . TZ750. RG500. DKW. BSA Bantam . Villiers (Y'all forgot that one didn't y'). Kawa 500 and 750 triples. YD1.

And I don't reckon the Triumph 650 vibrated so much. And so what if it did. Buncha pussies I suspect can't cope with twins.

**dawnrazor** · 25th November 2005, 10:32

ah the honda cub as NO.1 - bloody hell. Reminded me of a joke.

"What have Honda Cubs and Fat Chicks got in common?

They are both great fun to ride, but you wouldn't want your mates to see you on one!