Speeding? Spit please....

[bugjuice]

Just heard on the shorts for the news, that soon, if you are caught speeding, they can get a DNA swab.. wtf?
Just doesn't sound right to me, anyone know anything more? News sites haven't got anything yet..

[Firefight]

Just heard on the shorts for the news, that soon, if you are caught speeding, they can get a DNA swab.. wtf?
Just doesn't sound right to me, anyone know anything more? News sites haven't got anything yet..

thought you would pretty keen on giving a sample, who said it was spit they were after ?

F/F

[Skytwr]

Police can ask you for a DNA mouth swab, It is done voluntary. Only if you are convicted of a specified offence, Rape, murder etc then they can get a compulsion order from the courts. At this time Police can ask any body to supply a sample on a voluntary base. Alot of officers will ask some one on the road side as with the mouth swab, it does not require a nurse to take a blood sample as in the previous kits.

[wendigo]

Duh! Don't you see? If you speed you're OBVIOUSLY a sociopath who indulges in rape & murder as well as hooning down the motorway at the grand old total of 111 kmh.

I personally will sleep much better knowing that when I next get caught speeding, I can shortly thereafter expect that the full penalty of law will come down on top of me for all those vicous crimes I have perpetrated.

"Capn, we have a match for that case in upper hutt a few months ago where that speed camera was brutally sodomised..."

25 years at least & none of that pansy arsed home detention bullshit neither.

[madboy]

Bugger... sounds like a pretty good reason for me to keep the hammer down, don't want them catching up with me later on about all that jaywalking I did as a teenager.

[skelstar]

Bugger... sounds like a pretty good reason for me to keep the hammer down, don't want them catching up with me later on about all that jaywalking I did as a teenager.

Dude...when did you ever need a good reason to put the hammer down? I thought hearing a description of your bike on a scanner was enough? :bannana:

[Divot]

Whats wrong with givin DNA, unless you have something to hide.

[SARGE]

Whats wrong with givin DNA, unless you have something to hide.

sorry man.. no DNA from me without drawing blood and earning it

just a personal preference and i have nothing to hide.

if they need DNA to ID my body.. i have a washcloth next to my bed they are welcome to test..

[Aitch]

Whats wrong with givin DNA, unless you have something to hide.

Because we don't live in a police state. We don't yet have to carry id cards, (not when we're not driving/riding anyway), and we don't have to be subjected to random searches of our homes and businesses.

[Ixion]

I always figure that phrase ("unless you have something to hide") is a certain give away that freedom is in yet more danger.

The obvious answer is "Why should I SINCE I have nothing to hide". It is like the assumption that all men are paedophiles and must not sit next to children. Obviously the only reason the police would want a DNA sample is to try to pin something on someone. And there have been plenty of innocent people wrongly convicted on the basis of DNA samples.

Everyone has "Something to hide" It's called privacy. And "mind your own business" And "innocent until proven guilty" . And the right to be free of arbitrary search.

Used to be, that until a person gave some reason for suspicion that they had committed a crime, they should be regarded as law abiing citizens. Now, you're suggesting that everyone be treated as a criminal.

Oh , by the way, can I have your bank account pin numbers and your password for the police computer system,please? Why should you object unless you have something to hide. And can I come and watch you and your partner having sex? Why should you object unless you have something to hide. Oh, and the keys to your house and bike too please. Why should you object unless you have something to hide.

[MSTRS:Me]

Oh, and the keys to your house and bike too please. Why should you object unless you have something to hide.

You have locks?? You really do have something to hide, don't you?

[Divot]

The obvious answer is "Why should I SINCE I have nothing to hide". It is like the assumption that all men are paedophiles and must not sit next to children. Obviously the only reason the police would want a DNA sample is to try to pin something on someone.

Or to clear you, Many people have been cleared on DNA aswell>

[MacD]

I always figure that phrase ("unless you have something to hide") is a certain give away that freedom is in yet more danger.

The obvious answer is "Why should I SINCE I have nothing to hide".

I completely agree with you.

I cannot believe anybody would voluntarily give a DNA swab in such a situation. It is the ultimate invasion of privacy. The potential ethical issues and social implications of a DNA database haven't even begun to be assessed or discussed yet.

[TONO]

I completely agree with you.

I cannot believe anybody would voluntarily give a DNA swab in such a situation. It is the ultimate invasion of privacy. The potential ethical issues and social implications of a DNA database haven't even begun to be assessed or discussed yet.

This really is scary shit and definitely "Big Brother" is watching you, type legislation.
Of course people who speed are committing a crime!
People who rob,rape,assualt,aviod paying tax, shit in a public place etc, etc are all committing a crime.
So lets just dump them all together, its easier to handle that way and after all I'm a Politician/Senior Public Servant/Police Commissioner so I am exempt, being a perfect citizen with nothing to hide.
YEAH RIGHT.
Would make a good tui's advert.........................

"TODAY I WILL GIVE A DNA SAMPLE VOLUNTARILY"
"YEAH RIGHT"

[Eurodave]

Sounds to me like a thinly veiled excuse to update the ever growing data base!!!
remember when there was concern over retinal scanning/digital imaging on drivers lisence photos & them becoming defacto ID cards etc,
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!!!!