5km/hr speed tolerance

**bobsmith** · 18th January 2006, 06:29

This is just so tipical of NZ traffic law.... written so ambigously (think the excessive acceleration rule in boy racer act) and with no scientific guidelines whatsoever (but then what do you expect of law enforcement personnals and lawyers) so that it is left entirely up to the "law enforcement personnals" with ever changing mood swings to decide on the boundaries of the law which is never written down.....

**Sniper** · 18th January 2006, 06:44

Thanks BC. This is one law Im happy to agree with.

**Lou Girardin** · 18th January 2006, 06:44

Originally Posted by Bykey Cop

The 10km/hr tolerance still applies elsewhere but if you are driving less than 10km/hr over the limit in circumstances that would warrant a ticket, there is nothing to stop a cop issuing one.
BC.

Has anyone defined what those circumstances might be?
Failing the attitude test perhaps?
Cops blood sugar too low?
It's hard to see how 5 or so k's will make a difference to the potential risk of an offence.

**Edbear** · 18th January 2006, 06:51

Definitelt agree with slowing down passing schools! The kids are pretty well supervised in my local area, but I usually try to avoid passing the schools during times when kids are arriving or leaving, as one has to crawl along, stopping and starting, the whole street is completely crammed with kids, cages and buses everywhere! Can't see how one could get within cooee of the speed limit!

**Motu** · 18th January 2006, 06:52

I supose they will be outside Mt Roskill Primary catching cars speeding down the steep part of Frost rd....an easy catch as it's almost impossible not to let the speed build.No one ever speeds past the school,it's right on an intersection....but the Cop issues the ticket right outside the school which makes it look worse than it is.

**Ixion** · 18th January 2006, 06:52

On the face of it it seems a nice politically correct tightening up. Who could complain, protecting kids and all that. Until we realise that this will also apply to someone tootling past at 2 am in the morning, with not a kiddy in sight. And vicinity is so vague that a motorist might be pinged for 5kph over "in the vicinity" of a school several streets and a kilometre away. In fact there are very few places in cities that are more than a couple of kilometres from a school or some sort or other. So is this really an underhand way of effectively reducing the 10kph tolerance universally?

**MisterD** · 18th January 2006, 06:54

Like you'd want to speed with all those SUVs around with drivers more focussed on the "little darlings" fighting in the back seats than the other traffic on the road.

**Motig** · 18th January 2006, 07:09

No arguments with the 5k, but I presume it only applies during school hours.

**RiderInBlack** · 18th January 2006, 07:13

If you dudes are going to do us for 5km over, they better make speedo checks part of the WOF like is done in Europe.
As for around schools, that better be during school days and between 7am and 6pm, cause otherwise it's just bully shit. I pass way too many little country schools in the middle for nowhere around here outside thoses hours. Don't tell you're doing to protect the kids then, cause they aren't there then.

PS: if it is during school day and around times kids are to be expected to be around that piece of road then go for it. Just make sure that speedos are that accucate though.

**DEATH_INC.** · 18th January 2006, 07:25

I like this rule,but I wonder why we don't have the 30k rule like in Sydney,from memory between the hours of 8-10 and 2-4 schooldays, marked with signs.

**thehollowmen** · 18th January 2006, 07:28

Cheers, thanks for the heads up.
But how many people slow down to 20 km/h when they see a schoolbus on the side of the road? If someone is doing 60 they walk.

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**thehollowmen** · 18th January 2006, 07:29

Originally Posted by MisterD

Like you'd want to speed with all those SUVs around with drivers more focussed on the "little darlings" fighting in the back seats than the other traffic on the road.

entitlemoos

**Lou Girardin** · 18th January 2006, 07:44

That's a good point about speedo error, say your speedo is reading a tad slow, the cops Stalker has a 3 km/h margin of error and bingo! $20 thanks.

**WRT** · 18th January 2006, 08:00

Originally Posted by thehollowmen

Cheers, thanks for the heads up.
But how many people slow down to 20 km/h when they see a schoolbus on the side of the road?

Thats exactly what I was thinking while reading this thread. Watch your speed around those buses, peoples. And a tip for young players - dont try to look around the buses, cause then you cant see someone walking out until its too late. Instead look under the buses, you will spot the little pitter-patter of tiny feet long before they have chance to leap out in front of you and mess up your paint work.

But (and this is probably a great big, J-Lo sized "but(t)"), assuming that this campaign is for drivers passing a school entrance during school hours, then I'm all for it. Even though, as Lou said, I dont really see how 5kph is going to make all that much difference in the overall scheme of things.

Still, good to see someone is thinking of the children!