Oh no!

**KLOWN** · 15th February 2006, 12:26

Well, my power valves have dropped into my engine so now I have a large expensive paper weight.

On the plus side it looks like the cylinder wall is still all good. I'm gonna need new power valves and a new piston and probably lots more things :spudguita: if anyone can give me advice or help it would be much appreciated

**Sniper** · 15th February 2006, 12:28

PM TonyB, he might be able to help.

**SlowHand** · 15th February 2006, 12:39

welcome to the world of fucking rg's. fuck!

**scumdog** · 15th February 2006, 12:39

Get a four-stroke.

**Momentum** · 15th February 2006, 13:27

i 2nd that get a 4 stroke

**KLOWN** · 15th February 2006, 14:28

its cheaper to buy a 2 stroke and have the engne seize a couple of times then buy a 4 stroke (in regards to the price for my bike compared to a similar performance 4 stroke, i.e cbr250rr or zxr)

**Ixion** · 15th February 2006, 15:02

4 Strokes drop valves also, someone on here had it happen just the other day. What you need is a PROPER 2 stroke , without any valves or such like thingies. Valves, cams , chains, all affectation, bikes don't need them. Crankshaft, conrod, gudgeon, piston barrel and head. (and a few bolts circlips etc). Sorted.

**imdying** · 15th February 2006, 15:40

Pfft... motors with removable heads, that's just more technogarbage to go wrong, you should know that!

**cowboyz** · 15th February 2006, 16:07

that sucks for ya man. Just do the rebuild and learn from it. cant see much you could have done differently really. just bad luck really. "maintance" means "rebuild" for 2 strokes.

**R1madness** · 15th February 2006, 16:23

True enoough. Most performance 2 strokers need better oil than anyone wants to pay for.
Rings every 10000k, pistons every 20000k, power valves every 20000k. Crank seals and bearings every 40000k, Thats the life of a good 2stroke. Its ok not to do any of them and just run it til it craps out but then ya just end up stranded in the middle of nowhere and with a scuffed cylinder wall (man you are lucky with yours).
Fix it up, use better oil if ya possibly can afford it, and ring its bloody neck, thats what it loves.

**Ixion** · 15th February 2006, 16:30

Originally Posted by R1madness

True enoough. Most performance 2 strokers need better oil than anyone wants to pay for.
Rings every 10000k, pistons every 20000k, power valves every 20000k. Crank seals and bearings every 40000k, Thats the life of a good 2stroke. ...

100000km on the original bores, one new set of rings. Crank seals and bearings last 30 to 40 years on average. Thats the life of a GOOD two stroke.

And yeah, I'm still not too chuffed about removeable heads.

If you MUST have a 4 stroke with all them extra bits, make it a side valve, much more reliable.

**R1madness** · 15th February 2006, 18:01

Yea i like that.

for that man hahahaha

Sorry i should have said a high performance 2 stroke.

**Timber020** · 15th February 2006, 20:05

With the 2strokes at least the repairs are generally straight forward, I saw a $4500 quote for fixing a GSXR250 engine a few years back.

People bitch about 2 stokes being unreliable but they are as good as they are serviced. 4 stroke 250's might be more reliable but they put out less than the pope. Even the most modern wont beat a 20 year old 2stroke.

**KLOWN** · 15th February 2006, 23:03

I treated her the best I could but, I knew it would happen eventually. This is going to be a long build cause i'm so dirt poor

and will be doing everything myself and starting uni in a couple of weeks. If anyone has got a manual I can borrow/copy or can give me some advice thanks. I hope to get back on 2 wheels ASAP, I miss riding already