I have a mate staying who has her UK learners. Is she allowed a go on my bike? (250cc, with L plates)?
Dave
needs to work harder
I have a mate staying who has her UK learners. Is she allowed a go on my bike? (250cc, with L plates)?
Dave
Forum whore
Yes - cant see she'd have any problem if pulled over.
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Forum whore
I very much doubt it. She has a UK licence not a NZ one. As far as I know there is no international licence other than for a full licence.Originally Posted by RantyDave
I would err in the side of caution. If she gets pinged or even worse..........just dont think she'd have a lege to stand on.......and it could be very expensive at best.
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
Forum whore
Well if she's on her UK learners than that means she has passed the Compulsary Basic Training (CBT) course, with is supposed to be equal to your Basic Handling course to get your learners.
So technically she is at the same riding level, but whether the coppers over here will accept that is another matter.
If it's an issue then give the LTSA or whatever a call and ask.
Scooter boy
Show me someone who's failed their CBT ...
Seriously, the missus wanted to transfer her UK car provisional (L) licence to speed up the process of getting her full kiwi licence.
In the end, it would have been just as easy to start from scratch.
If she did start from scratch, it's simple and easy, and plod know that you aren't trying to pull the wool if you do get stopped ... 10c
too old to know everything
Forum whore
I knew a guy that failed the CBT... just couldn't get the hang of it... shouldn't have ridden at all really. Some people can't do more than one thing at a time.
After reviewing the license conditions over here, and seeing as I'd be chained to a 250 for two years I did DAS in the UK instead, means I've got a license to ride anything I want
Scooter boy
I recomend you check it with LTSA or AA, but my opinion, that YES, she can ride, but she have the same restrictions she have in UK., and she can only ride for 12 months from her most recent entry to NZ.
Some history, guys...
This Convention signed first in 1949, and then being signed by many countries, including NZ and UK, and even Russia (my country, guys, don't recomend you to meet Russian road police, you'll be surprised).. Well, it says that the countries, who signed this Convention, must accept NATIONAL driver licences from other countries, but the same restrictions apply as in the country of issue.
So, you actually don't need IDP to drive in another countries, if they signed this document, they should accept your national driver license. However, some countries introduce their own rules a bit limitating this Convention, e.g. in NZ you can use your overseas license for 1 year since date of entry, in Russia, if you're russian citizen, you can't use overseas license at all, if you're not Russian citizen, you can use it for 3 months...
Hardcore Biker
After your UK CBT you can only ride a 125cc max though, so your 250 would be out. AFAIK, you can't "fail" a CBT (it's training not a test), although the instructor can insist on additional training if you're really crap!
Matt
Forum whore
Our survey says... nope.
CBT is a test of sorts, if the instructor doesn't think you're safe on the roads then you won't pass... and you have to pass a theory test before you take the CBT at all...
Forum whore
People have failed the CBT. More by lack of confidence than anything I think, because most of the testers will let you have repeated tries until you get it right. But some folk have come off and been to upset to continue.
Weekend cruiser
You can fail the CBT like anything else - the instructor has to be accountable for the fact you are about to go out on your own into the big world.
By UK law you are then restricted to a maximum size of 125cc not exceeding 11Kw, until you pass your test.
You can also have a provisional licence and not done the CBT, which would mean a 'no' for riding at all.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln
Scooter boy
Anyway, why not get a NZ Learner's and avoid headaches??? Its only 110$ (much cheaper than flight from UK), and she will easily pass theory and BHST, if she can ride.
Hardcore Biker
Never heard of it though - think taking an NZ learners is the way forward if she really wants to ride over here...
CBT is the first step in learning - then theory & practical tests, no need to do the theory first....
Better to keep quiet and have people think you're stupid than open your mouth and prove it!
Fair weather rider
I emailed LTSA recently as were moving out around august. The girlfreind passed her uk restricted full licence (full licence test taken on a bike under 33bhp mean your restricted to under 33bhp for 2 years...take it on bigger bike over 33bhp mean full unrestricted licence).
LTSA replied that she could ride for a year to the conditions of her licence (i.e power limit, but no night time or lower speed limits....) and that they would send me a letter confirming this should she get stopped.
Not sure how this works really as she has passed the same requirements as the full NZ test.....and even if she was a learner could ride a 70bhp 250cc 2 smoke...
think it may be easier for her to pass her full nz licence before the year is up and ride what she likes...
you'll be glad to hear it has just started snowing in London....not jealous of summer at all!
Scooter boy
How she can pass NZ full if she haven't actually got neither UK full nor NZ Learners&Restricted?
I thought that only full licences of other countries can be coverted into NZ full.
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