Silly rule

[Karma]

Well I never got pulled up for it, but can't see it being illegal... would have just said I was borrowing the bike, which was true.

[Gremlin]

So what happens if you have a full licence and ride a bike with L plates?

Rayza did that for a bit of fun, and to err... see how strong the sticky tape was

I think I read somewhere here it was illegal. But really, why would you ride with an L plate if you didn't need to??

He probably couldn't fit the plate into his tiny boot.

[Skyryder]

But really, why would you ride with an L plate if you didn't need to??

Just to see the look of dissapointment on Mr Plod's face. I know my sense of humour's not everyones cup of tea, but I like it.

So any definitive answer to this.

Skyryder

[Gremlin]

Just to see the look of dissapointment on Mr Plod's face. I know my sense of humour's not everyones cup of tea, but I like it.

ummm.... so you want to get pulled out of traffic, delayed, and then the cop potentially finds something else to nab you on??

Or am I the only that might have the odd compliance issue??

[Skyryder]

ummm.... so you want to get pulled out of traffic, delayed, and then the cop potentially finds something else to nab you on??

Or am I the only that might have the odd compliance issue??

When I'm out riding I've got all day to get there and back so getting pulled out of traffic is not a problem. Got warrent, rego etc. As for finding something else...............that's the interesting bit. A little sting with media cooperation comes to mind. Know some TV types who may be interested. Will give this some thought.

Skyryder

[Deviant Esq]

Well, at least three Learner licence rules suck major buttcheek. The "must wear L plate" rule, while a good idea, seems to insite "homicidal maniac" tendancies in other road users, causing them to aim for you rather than around you. It also comes into play when breaking the next two licence conditions:

A: "Must not exceed 70km/h." This is more likely to get you killed than keep you safe. All manner of things from Mums in RAV4s to boy racers to bigger 4WDs and trucks go past you, making you fear for your bacon. So you go whatever the posted limit is, whether that be 80km/h or 100km/h. And without your L plate, you're not advertising that you're breaking a licence condition.

B: "Must not ride after 10pm and before 5am." Why the [BLEEP] not?!? We're adults (mostly), and in winter, what difference in daylight does 11pm make to 8pm? Hmm? Nothing. Except, later at night, there is far less traffic on the road, meaning you're far less likely to be involved in a traffic tangle. And without your L plate, you're not advertising that you're breaking a licence condition.

So these three are routinely ignored (most of the time) by myself. Sure, I don't want to pay fines. But I'd rather pay fines than pay with my life!

[Ixion]

I never understood the hours restriction. A "must not ride at night" I could sort of understand for a learner. But the hours specified don't fit that. And , in fact, 2am is a LOT safer than 10pm. I think it was really just the Mrs Grundy syndrome. Nothing to do with safety at all. After all, if the rules didn't have the L plate rule, and the 70kph one, and the curfew, how many people would just stay forever on a Learners? If you are just commuting and don't want a big bike, no point in going for restricted/full. And that means no income for bureaucrats. Also, they know that most learners will be young. And most bureaucrats are old. Very very very old. And it gives them the shits to think of young people out late . "What are they doing ???? " they think - and then get jealous!

[terbang]

Good points there so what do you cops out there think about these rules, do they work and how as a collective (bikers) can we, if need be, get them changed to make the transition to motorcycles smother and safer..?

[scumdog]

Good points there so what do you cops out there think about these rules, do they work and how as a collective (bikers) can we, if need be, get them changed to make the transition to motorcycles smother and safer..?

Dunno, I'lllet you know the next (first) time I pull over a bike on 'L' plates.

I feel it was a blanket cover thing with the target being young car drivers - THEY I can see being better off not driving around at 3.a.m. with a car load of equally spoty faced juvenile mates in a drunken state.

I don't know how you WOULD lobby gov't to get that law changed but I've got no problem with just an engine (or H.P.) limit for L platers.

Down here I haven't seen/heard of any problems from other motorists for anybody driving/riding with L plates (except peer pressure shit like Loser plate and other puerile stuff)

[Rosie]

After all, if the rules didn't have the L plate rule, and the 70kph one, and the curfew, how many people would just stay forever on a Learners?

Learners licences eventually expire. I got my learners licence in the mail last week, and I only have until the end of 2014 to go for my restricted. Better start practising.
Sending out a bright blue licence with LEARNER written on it in huge letters to someone who already has a car licence, and a nice letter saying "Now you're allowed to drive on the road! Make sure you get lots of practise!" encourages you to get rid of the stoopid condescending learner licence as quickly as possible. Seriously, if a nice police officer pulls me over in the car and asks for my licence, what will they notice first? The bright blue LEARNER sign, or the small writing at the bottom saying 1, 2, 6L ?

[Devil]

Seriously, if a nice police officer pulls me over in the car and asks for my licence, what will they notice first? The bright blue LEARNER sign, or the small writing at the bottom saying 1, 2, 6L ?

Hah, yeah, I had my full car before the learner bike. I was surprised to say the least when I saw my shiny new licence had learner plastered all over it.

Caused a moment of confusion once when I was pulled over in the car (had a passenger, late at night) and the officer asked to see my licence. Upon spotting the blue card he immediately started questioning my drunken passenger about their licence.

[TygerTung]

Learners licences eventually expire. I got my learners licence in the mail last week, and I only have until the end of 2014 to go for my restricted. Better start practising.
Sending out a bright blue licence with LEARNER written on it in huge letters to someone who already has a car licence, and a nice letter saying "Now you're allowed to drive on the road! Make sure you get lots of practise!" encourages you to get rid of the stoopid condescending learner licence as quickly as possible. Seriously, if a nice police officer pulls me over in the car and asks for my licence, what will they notice first? The bright blue LEARNER sign, or the small writing at the bottom saying 1, 2, 6L ?

Haha you get the same letter when you get your licence back after being disqualified, it's rather amusing.