Red light runners

[Monsterbishi]

There is a simple solution to this:

automated road spikes that pop up on the white lines as soon as the lights turn red - would take a week, tops before folks always slowed down on the orange.

[Grahameeboy]

it's a shame we don't live in a country that can sue the pants off pricks like that. If they hit me, it's my excuse to go round and hit them. Bring it on.. fuckers. I can bounce.

Sadly it would be even worse if we could sue as in UK or America.....trust me BG I handled large Personal Injury claims back in UK and it is not a nice society.

[Ixion]

I do not understand why if cops can manage speed camera cars, to fine folk for something that is not really dangerous, they cannot manage manned red light camera cars to fine people for something that is dangerous. Hook the camera shutter up to the light contolling gizmo, and it's all on. And the $150 max fine shows the stupidity of those who write the rules!

[sAsLEX]

What gets me is some of the terrible phasing around auckland, like sitting there well after peak traffic times and the light phases are still waiting for the huge non-existent ques!!!! Other thing that gets me is 1-2 second green phases!

[bugjuice]

Sadly it would be even worse if we could sue as in UK or America.....trust me BG I handled large Personal Injury claims back in UK and it is not a nice society.

hey, my mum got 10g's from the Post Office when one of their vans rammed the back of her car.. Can't get that kinda dough here for such agony..

[Da Bird]

I do not understand why if cops can manage speed camera cars, to fine folk for something that is not really dangerous, they cannot manage manned red light camera cars to fine people for something that is dangerous. Hook the camera shutter up to the light contolling gizmo, and it's all on. And the $150 max fine shows the stupidity of those who write the rules!

It would have something to do with the legislation. Speed camera offences specifically allow police to fine the registered owner of the vehicle and it is up to the owner to prove they were not driving.

For an offence such as red light running, it is the driver who must receive the ticket, therefore the time involved in tracking down the driver is much greater. I have used a video camera several times and 1-2 hours on the video can create 8 hours of paperwork and reviewing video etc. It is extremely time consuming.

I would definitely agree with an increase in the fine for red light running and add demerit points too!

BC.

[Grahameeboy]

hey, my mum got 10g's from the Post Office when one of their vans rammed the back of her car.. Can't get that kinda dough here for such agony..

and just for a whiplash....would have included loss of earnings but not bad eh?

[Ixion]

That is why I said manned cameras. The camera for evidence (since red light running is arguable), and cop on bike to catch the perpetrator on the spot. Thoiugh a law change to put onus on registered owner would be good too. Another thing for BRONZ to take up!

[chris]

Everyone deplores it and has seen it done.....so just who is running red lights?

Tip of the iceberg I reckon. What about those who regularly cross the centre line, don't indicate, pull out from intersections directly in front of you - after looking - and see nothing wrong with it!!

[chris]

and cop on bike to catch the perpetrator on the spot.

There's an awful lot of traffic lights in NZ...

[Ixion]

That's OK. Lots of cops in NZ too. Train ALL cops on bikes (don't have to be big ones, small bike would be better for red light work). Then put ALL cops on red light duty.

[chris]

My opinion...

Put 50% of the traffic cops on the beat, walking residential areas etc. This would also give them a taste of what it is like to be a real policeman.
Then allow drivers to actually concentrate on their driving and where they are going rather than staring at the dash to make sure they don't drift over the posted limit.

[buellbabe]

We do have an awful lot of traffic lights in this country... my dad was from the UK and he was amazed that you could be in a 100km zone and then suddenly have to come to a halt for friggin traffic lights!
Anyways aren't roundabouts sposed to improve traffic flow and cut down on lights??? YEAH RIGHT.

[Big Dave]

I would definitely agree with an increase in the fine for red light running and add demerit points too!

BC.

Back home in OZ - it' automated - the cameras are fixed, the fine huge and so are the demerits.
it's automatically sent to the registered owner of the vehicle.
He cops it - or identifies who was driving at the time. same with speed cameras - all they are here is a fee. not really a deterent.

[Grahameeboy]

[QUOTE=buellbabe]We do have an awful lot of traffic lights in this country... my dad was from the UK and he was amazed that you could be in a 100km zone and then suddenly have to come to a halt for friggin traffic lights!
Anyways aren't roundabouts sposed to improve traffic flow and cut down on lights??? YEAH RIGHT.[/QUOTE]

But driver don't understand roundabout rules either.........Road Code 'Roundabouts' is confusing too....