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    Campbell Live tonight 22/02/06

    Who else watched??

    Was an interesting debate over the unbundling of the local loop, with Campbell the slingshot lady, grand old teresa and some minister all having there say.

    What I found interesting was how for such a high paid CEO I thought Teresa got shat on by Campbell, and was even more suprised by how well the Government guy spoke.

    From the gist of what the gunnmint dude said Telecon has stepped on some toes, and was not impressed with the sudden change in stance the day before Aunty Helens announcement over broadband, and expect changes to the broadband market around the middle of this year.

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    Mr Cunliffe did speak well but what do you expect - that's what he's paid to do. If he didn't talk good he wouldna got peeps ta vote for him.
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    i was well impressed with dermott notingham on fair go , he made fair go look a bit stupid

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    Terresa Gutting was a political appointment. With all the man hating women in Government, they needed an ugly women to front Telecom.

    She certainly doesn't pull the strings and has absolutely no presence. I've met her once and she reminded me of a depressed housewife. With the monopoly Telecom has even Crazy Steve could run it successfully.

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    i THINK TELECOM ARE A BUNCH OF COCKSTINKERS WHO JUST STEAL ALL OUR MONEY AND LOBBY THE GOVT TO KEEP THE MONOPOLY.

    Good to see her getting owned, most of the crap they said they had accomplished was complete bs and it was good to see johnny having a fact sheet infront of him to back it all up and rip them apart.

    And that entry level plan being cheapest shit they spouted... $40 or whatever for the latest 'free upgraded' 2mbit.. yep okay WITH A CAP THAT CAN BE GONE IN LESS THAN A FEW MINUTES DOWNLOADING!

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    I liked her saying " but but the benchmarks" when every Non- telecon piece of literature I have read has suggested that we are a backwards Hicksville for not unbundling, and we are still the only one in the OCED not too (not counting Mexico.....but their all drunk on Tequila so dont use the net, or are busy trying to get in to the states.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn
    With the monopoly Telecom has even Crazy Steve could run it successfully.
    HE COULD , HED JUST STAB PEOPLE IN THE HAND OR EYE THAT DIDNT DO WHAT THEIR TOLD , DO YOU THINK CAMBELL WOULDA BEEN SUCH A SMARTARSE WITH A SPOOK HOLDING A SCREWDRIVER SITTING OPPOSITE

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    Wheres the competition?

    More speed better quality lower prices! let them claw each others eyes out, bring on the competition.
    Give them an equal playing field. Or at least a little bit equal! John.

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    Why can't Telecom do what they want, and what's it got to do with the government?

    The government owned the whole lot (NZ Post Office) and sold it all off. As a result Telecom is now a private company. As a private company they can offer whatever services they want, and charge what they like for it, just as any other private company can. If you're not happy with what they offer, then you can go to another company (EG Vodaphone, TelstraClear). It's not Telecom's problem that no other company can offer the full range of services that Telecom can. Telecom is simply making the most of what it bought off the government. Yes, it’s a monopoly, that’s what it bought off the government.

    Not happy? Oh, well too bad, that's how it is. Our government cocked up and sold off the family jewels way back in 1987, and now it wants to dictate what the new owner can do with those jewels. Telstra and co not happy? Of course not, they want to make more money for themselves, they’re not in for you and I either. Vodaphone and Telecom fixing prices with each other? Yep, probably, just like the petrol companies do.

    I'm not happy with the way Telecom goes about business either, or the disgusting profits it makes, or the exorbitant money Obersturmbannfuhrer Gattung gets paid. But I can do no more about it than anyone else. Blame the government, they cocked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tristank
    i THINK TELECOM ARE A BUNCH OF COCKSTINKERS WHO JUST STEAL ALL OUR MONEY AND LOBBY THE GOVT TO KEEP THE MONOPOLY.
    Easy fella... management are one thing... the workers are something else

    And that entry level plan being cheapest shit they spouted... $40 or whatever for the latest 'free upgraded' 2mbit.. yep okay WITH A CAP THAT CAN BE GONE IN LESS THAN A FEW MINUTES DOWNLOADING!
    I agree with you on this, but the management don't listen to the front line

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    I have their "flat rate" adsl plan, the thing that rides me is that I can only use 10gig worth of data in a month before they throw me back to dial up speed... A n increased m/bit download speed in april aint really worth 5/8th of fuckall to me if theyre not substantially increasing my 10gig per month "flat rate" plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by far queue
    Why can't Telecom do what they want, and what's it got to do with the government?

    ..,,,
    So, why can't the government (aka the people) do what it wants. The government sold the family silver, the government can take it back. Nationalise the bastidges. The current obsession that nothing may be allowed to interfere with private profit is poppycock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMad
    I have their "flat rate" adsl plan, the thing that rides me is that I can only use 10gig worth of data in a month before they throw me back to dial up speed... A n increased m/bit download speed in april aint really worth 5/8th of fuckall to me if theyre not substantially increasing my 10gig per month "flat rate" plan.
    Well answers on a postcard... if enough people ask then they might do something about it...

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    our copper phone lines won't take that kind of data being shoved down them to get speeds like aussie etc... we need to change to fibre optics....and they don't wanna spend that large amount of money

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    What do you do if you make a cock up?
    I try my best to put it right when I make one, particularly if it affects someone else.
    So should we not expect the government to do the same?

    And whilst the government did sell Telecom it still, like you and I, should opperate within the laws of the land. Telecom openly and wontonly flout these laws and should be held to account.
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