Motorcycle Restricted Licence Test (Scam)

[Streetwise]

Yes i agree that there is something there and that is a good thing. BUT the reality of testing bikes is only there to take the heat off the LTNZ. they really dont give to much worry about the low usage of bikes in this country. If they did there would be systems put in place that only cover motorcycle safety,

[Ixion]

No, there's a thread somewhere where I found out about this. The tester must have a (full) licence of the class being tested FOR EVERYTHING EXCEPT MOTORCYCLES. And many testers do NOT have any bike licence , and many have never ridden a bike. Go figure.

[bugjuice]

F - full?
no

[Streetwise]

Bugjuice, No you are wrong, They only have to hold a learners permit to test.

[skelstar]

Thats a good point Ix.

Its kinda like the alcohol rule for bikes.

Who in their right mind would get drunk and ride a bike? You can kinda wing it in a car (with multiple car consequences) but on a bike even in an intoxicated state Im gonna be thinking...fuck my bike is hard enough to manouvre (at low speeds) when Im sober!!!

Im not implying there shouldnt be a limit for alcohol for bikes, only using it as an example.

[Streetwise]

this just seams very wrong to me.

[Jonty]

My view is that the tests are crap- I didn't look over my shoulder, had a bust indicator and went 50K through a 30k area (didn't see the road works sign) and still passed.

For my full I did the CBTA and that was the best thing since sliced bread. This should be the compulsory test. It requires a full day of "training" and the instructor can assess every part of your riding and make an informed decisions. You will not fail for a silly mistake, and if you have any major flaws you can get this corrected.

[Streetwise]

The CBTA will be back in action before to long, you can count on that,

[Mooch]

Learners permit is a worry then , the guy that took me had been riding M/C cop for 10 years or so , while the test was reasonably basic it was his observations of my riding that was just as important and if road rules where being followed. He point out that by riding in the centre of a lane I was more likely to have issues with hitting oil etc. He also suggested better positioning of myself to be seen by car drivers when changing lanes etc. While obvious now it wasn't whilst learning.

[Streetwise]

As it stands i think that 90% of tests sat pass that first time round, Compair that to cars you might be very supprised, It stands to reason that this could be why young fools jump on fast bikes and kill themselves, They have cruised through the whole process without really being tested, and now yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaa a 1700 vtwin, yippy

[bugjuice]

what's got your back up on this anyway?

[Streetwise]

mooch. Yes thats my point a rider can help another rider, A person that does not ride has no idea of what he or she is on about, This makes things pointless,

[Streetwise]

i teach young lads and ladetts that are ready to be mad bastards on the road, the only thing i can do to stop them from killing themselves is work hard and try to explain that riding is fun but it has its dangers, i take exeption to the knowledge that once i have finished, This may be the only training or support that they will have through there whole riding career,

[bugjuice]

well then the only way to make a difference is to make noise to the right people. Organise a big ride and/or petition etc, and get to the Govt. You're in the right place for it. Go and tell them exactly what's wrong with things the way they are, and the few steps they need to put in place to make the roads a safer place for us and everyone else using the roads.

You can bitch all you want on an internet forum, what's it gonna do?

[skelstar]

You are right Buggy but he did ask for peoples opinions:

Has anyone gone through the testing process and found it to be a good thing ????