wanker bike shops!!!!

[CLEAN CUT]

I am spewing bloody wanker bike shops. I was booked in to go for my full licence March 6th 12:45pm ($115.00 later:slap, all set to borrow a bike from the local bike shop, dude at the shop said "give us a couple of days notice before your test so i can make sure the bike is ready", sweet, or so i thought. I rang a week before, then last Friday, and again Monday morning and confirmed i would be picking up the bike at 12:30. Well i get there at 12:35, giving myself 10mins to atach the L plate and get to know the bike, i stroll into the shop, dude says " Hey, hows it going, the bikes just down at the VTNZ getting a warrent, it'll be about half an hour" i said "thats great, my tests in five minutes" to which he replied " oh.....umm.... i thought it was 1:30pm" i said "FUCK!!!!" and asked to borrow the phone. To cut a long story short, i couldn't go for my licence as i didnt get the bike, and the testing officer wouldn't wait half an hour, i explained that i had been riding for 17 years and the licence was a formality, and that i had a ZX9R that was legal and if i could use that. Well she went and made a phone call and came back with a big fat NO. So i would just like to say hi to phils motorcycle centre in Matamata and Fuck you very much!

JUST ANOTHER CONFUSED SOUL WHO THINKS THE WORLD OWES ONE A LIVING...THE GUY IN THE BIKE SHOP HAD NOTHING TO DO OF COURSE AND WAS WAITING FOR YOU. AS FOR MENTION OF SMALL CLAIMS, THIS IS VERY OFTEN A VEHICLE FOR PEOPLE TO TRY IT ON....

[imdying]

He is quite entitled to try for compensation if he is out of pocket due to someone elses inability to organise their business efficiently. Litigation is a fairly drasitic route, but one he's entitled to take. Your implication that the guy in the bike shop was busy isn't a fair comment, he could've stated that when the enquiries were first made, and our man would've been able to make other arrangements. Of couse he couldn't have known if he was to be busy on that particular day, but surely with his years of experience a little preplanning wouldn't be beyond him?

[CLEAN CUT]

He is quite entitled to try for compensation if he is out of pocket due to someone elses inability to organise their business efficiently. Litigation is a fairly drasitic route, but one he's entitled to take. Your implication that the guy in the bike shop was busy isn't a fair comment, he could've stated that when the enquiries were first made, and our man would've been able to make other arrangements. Of couse he couldn't have known if he was to be busy on that particular day, but surely with his years of experience a little preplanning wouldn't be beyond him?

THE GUY HAS SHOWN HIS PEDIGREE WITH THE STRING OF EXPLETIVES AND BAD MOUTHING AND YOU HAVE JUST GOT NO IDEA OF HOW BUSY AND STRESSED PERSONNEL IN BIKE SHOPS GET. IT IS NOT A CASE OF INABILITY, IT IS A CASE OF TOO MUCH WORK, TOO FEW AVAILABLE HOURS AND NOT BEING EASY TO RECRUIT SUITABLE STAFF BECAUSE YEARS OF THE NANNY STATE IS BREEDING A NATION OF USELESS PLONKERS. BUT I DONT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU ARE A CIVIL SERVANT OR A TEACHER OR SOMETHING EVEN WORSE.....

[Lazy7]

THE GUY HAS SHOWN HIS PEDIGREE WITH THE STRING OF EXPLETIVES AND BAD MOUTHING AND YOU HAVE JUST GOT NO IDEA OF HOW BUSY AND STRESSED PERSONNEL IN BIKE SHOPS GET. IT IS NOT A CASE OF INABILITY, IT IS A CASE OF TOO MUCH WORK, TOO FEW AVAILABLE HOURS AND NOT BEING EASY TO RECRUIT SUITABLE STAFF BECAUSE YEARS OF THE NANNY STATE IS BREEDING A NATION OF USELESS PLONKERS. BUT I DONT EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU ARE A CIVIL SERVANT OR A TEACHER OR SOMETHING EVEN WORSE.....

has one of the mods banned WINJA's account?

[Shadows]

Well I know if it was my business, and we'd definately made the fuck up, I would have lent him another 250 off the floor with apologies.
You should always look after your customers, you can't survive without them.

[Ixion]

The bike shop dude admitted he made a mistake, thought the required time was 1:30 not 12:30. Nothing to do with being too busy.

Bike shop stuffed up and SHOULD make it right. BUT, in strict law there is a thing called "time being of the essence". And unless that is SPECIFICALLY spelled out, and the contracting party (bike shop) agrees to accept liability for consequential damage, the hirer may be shit out of luck.

In effect the bike shop can say "Well, you can still hire the bike, time just starts and finishes an hour later. Too bad that you needed it earlier, our deal was for X hours hire, you can still have that". To overcome that you have to have specific agreement by the parties.

Not very good planning by the shop though. What if the bike had failed its WoF ?

IMHO the shop has a moral, but not perhaps legal obligation to reimburse the hirer.

EDIT: IANAL, and my memory of contract law is dim, and I can't find my contract law textbook. But we have a couple at least of legal beagles here who may comment (from memory Mr Henry DorsetCase and Mr Phurball at least)

[Ixion]

,,, TOO FEW AVAILABLE HOURS AND NOT BEING EASY TO RECRUIT SUITABLE STAFF BECAUSE YEARS OF THE NANNY STATE IS BREEDING A NATION OF USELESS PLONKERS. ,,,.

Bet you'd get 50 members from this site, and not all plonkers who'd jump at the chance of a job in a bike shop. Tried paying a fair wage ?

[Lazy7]

I've always said my dream job would be working in a motorcycle shop that sold size 8 bikini's and beer...

but i am a plonker.

[Lou Girardin]

Which amounts to GREED!

Bunch of dicks is right!! I've boycotted the place.

You could say that. But if someone is late and another person is ready and willing for a test, what do you do?
It's when they knock you back for 2 or 3 minutes late that it becomes corrupt.

[Lou Girardin]

AND YOU HAVE JUST GOT NO IDEA OF HOW BUSY AND STRESSED PERSONNEL IN BIKE SHOPS GET...

Oh yeah, I'm just sooooo busy and stressed, I don't know how I get through the day.
But if I say I'll do something, I'll do it.

[marty]

personally, i would have been in the shop the day before, making sure that it was ready - NOT just phoning them. oit's not like matamata is a big place that takes an hour to get across. if it neded a wof for MY purposes, then I would have taken it down - not have other people run round after me - there is little value or reward for someone when they are doing something as a favour for someone they are not family or good mates with, so expediting something (in this case the WOF) had nothing to do with the bike shop being busy, and everything to do with excerting the minimum required energy for the desired outcome. often, the busier the shop, the better organised it is, and the more work that gets done.

bottom line, IMHO, is that slapnuts fucked around and procrastinated for 17 years on his learners, probably got a ticket for breaching it, so is on a timeline to upgrade, but, after relying on people to run around and do things for him for 'favours' has been found wanting, and now wants to divert the blame.

[imdying]

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU ARE A CIVIL SERVANT OR A TEACHER OR SOMETHING EVEN WORSE.....

... maybe, I don't know educated or intelligent?! Must be something different between us, I mean I've got enough brain cells to rub together to be able to work a caps lock key I'd be keen to know what goes on in your little dream world though... you sound like you could work for Casbolts :P

Marty, your bottom line has an unusual conclusion. You still seem to think it was some favour being done. It was business, in this case, a rental. You keep mumbling about 17 years to book a test, but where's the relevance? The bike shop should only rent bikes in a timely matter to people who've had their learners for less than 2 years? 3 years? I don't understand why you think it makes a difference?

I've no idea what the legal standing would be, but the strict rule of law doesn't necessarily hold in the Disputes Tribunal (ne Small Claims). The adjudicator will make a ruling that they see as fair based upon the evidence. That may be a full or partial compensation, or no compensation at all. Before you can take that road though, they do require you to at least try and resolve the issue outside of the judiciary system.

[onearmedbandit]

+1 for imdyings post.

[marty]

all set to borrow a bike from the local bike shop,

am i missing something here?

[imdying]

'They were gonna charge me $30 for the lend.'

Naw, just his terminology is different. I do see your point though, if he was merely borrowing it free of charge, then it isn't a business transaction, it's a favour. If that were the case, then they're bastards, but certainly not liable (imho).