I have a vision*

[Big Dave]

Their website is probably a good indicator



latest news is 2004.

An indicator of the lack of resources.

Here we go - lets do summat boot it.

what about one of the you young blokes who are building their web skills at the moment?


WANTED:

Want a unique work experience opportunity? Showcase and advertise your www skills in a worthwhile project - collaborative solutions welcome.

The job entails liasing with the org. secretary - obtaining and translating word documents to html and presenting them in an eye catching design.

Give the site a freshen up:
http://bronz.org.nz/

I can probably find some nice motorcycle kit as payment and will help with direction.


should this go in a new thread?


shuffle shuffle ;-)

[Big Dave]

not knowing much about alot stuff, how big is bronz as in member numbers?

A few hundred nationally.

From what ixion says it appears to be a cyclic thing. burns bright then fades.

perhaps one of these days someone will step up and bang the drum loud enough that it gets it's own momentum and becomes a bit like the aussie model.
now might not be the cycle - I got some issues. I'll have a bash. I'm probably in a unique position being tight with all 4 bike mags and media too.

For the record - I'm not losing sleep - but I want something done about the loose gravel shite on our (I pay me taxes) roads and hands free phones in cars.

And Utopia.

[stify]

well good on big dave for havin a crack,got my support, as the motorcycle is a daily thing for me i gota few issues as well, will keep the next meetin day free an check it out....not so much for utopia, but me skin an bones

[terbang]

Yup Big Dave I agree count me in.

[SwanTiger]

An indicator of the lack of resources.

Here we go - lets do summat boot it.

what about one of the you young blokes who are building their web skills at the moment?


WANTED:

Want a unique work experience opportunity? Showcase and advertise your www skills in a worthwhile project - collaborative solutions welcome.

The job entails liasing with the org. secretary - obtaining and translating word documents to html and presenting them in an eye catching design.

Give the site a freshen up:
http://bronz.org.nz/

I can probably find some nice motorcycle kit as payment and will help with direction.


should this go in a new thread?


shuffle shuffle ;-)

I was actually considering offerring my expertise to them, however I wanted to get along to the meeting on Wednesday and gauge the enthusiasm and future of BRONZ and its members.

For free membership I will be willing to help out with the website as well as anything else computer related.

BD, I'll PM you.

[Lou Girardin]

I'll have to try and get to the next meeting, but one thing occurred to me. They need better communication to the public at large about biking issues. To do that they need a name change. Bikers Rights of NZ (Bronz) has far too many negative connotations. Bikers should be Motorcyclists, Rights sounds militant, there should be a reference to Safety instead and the acronym BRONZ just sounds like Bro's.
It's all a turn-off to non-bikers.

[DemonWolf]

I agree with Lou.. though I have no solution for a new name. BRONZ and the insignia used on the website appears to be 'gang' related... and thats not an image you want to portray to government or the public (IMHO).

I like where you are going with this so far Big Dave.. count me in (though I doubt I'll get to any auckland meetings anytime soon.. but I'll join as a member!)

[Ixion]

Motorcyclists' Action Group . MAG. Don't agree with excessive focus on safety in the presentation, or it would become just a channel for the government to push more restrictive legislation on us , like the AA ("How can you object to the new laws, they're to makethe roads safer, isn't that what you're all about?"). After all we all know speed kills, right?

Needs the young guys, too, and the guys with bottle, not all Nanas like me and grey heads.

[bugjuice]

I agree on the name issue.

But a bunch of newbies (to them) who barge in shouting about rights etc, and their name sucks, ain't gonna look good. Unless someone is going to take lead on a new group and start from the ground up, we can't go changing things like that, just cos it doesn't sound right.

And Ixion, instead of Action, how about Association? Altho we are bikers, not associated with bikers.. hmmmmm...


anyway, something else I thought about this morning, are there any MPs that ride bikes? May be some thought should be put into lobbying with them?

[Ixion]

Suggested MAG because that's the name of a quite successful motorcyclist lobby group in the UK. I checked once and they said they'd we willing to help with advice and such - I was doodling with the idea of starting a ginger group here, but never got beyond the doodle stage.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with the name BRONZ. Bikers is what we are, Rights is what we want and the NZ comes naturally. And it's pronouncable.

Just needs more members and more clout. And more ginger.

Personally, again, I reckon having a somewhat "tough" public persona isn't a bad idea. No matter what you do , you're never going to make some members of the general public regard bikes positively, and trying to play Little Miss Goody Twoshoes just risks being marginalised, and becoming the token rubber stamp for the LTSA.

And, in fact, given that bikers do an awful lot of public good (when did you hear of a cage Blood Run or Toy Run ?) having a tough image can be good for publicity - makes a contrast , like - "Oh how interesting , see all those tough bikies, and they're collecting toys for the kiddies, isn't that cute"

I reckon some of the Maori activist groups probably would provide a good model.

EDIT: Only problem with BRONZ as a name is some people have thought the B meant Bikes as in treadleys. And MRONZ (Motorcyclists rights) would be an unfortunate choice - say it quickly. But really I don't reckon that changing a name is going to do much , and it's not really needed.

[Big Dave]

I was actually considering offerring my expertise to them, however I wanted to get along to the meeting on Wednesday and gauge the enthusiasm and future of BRONZ and its members.

For free membership I will be willing to help out with the website as well as anything else computer related.

BD, I'll PM you.

Excellent - I've sent the emails. Will get back to you.
cheers
dc

[Big Dave]

anyway, something else I thought about this morning, are there any MPs that ride bikes? May be some thought should be put into lobbying with them?

Spooky - Indeed there is - I'm meeting one for lunch today.

[bugjuice]

good on ya mate. Let us know how it goes then.

We need to get pally with someone on the inside and has connections. Be it someone from Bronz, or someone who has no idea, just rides bikes.. But we need a recognized voice with some clout.

[Big Dave]

I could maybe ask that Tamaki bloke? :slap:

[bugjuice]

and we'd all leave you Dave..