Triumph and England

[Big Dave]

Yeah dave they are made in England - except for the bits made in Thailand

http://www.jobtopgun.com/jobtopgun/j...p=&type=2]Thai

[Sniper]

Lol, seems like bloody everything is somehow affected or built using asain originated parts.

[Edbear]

There was a time when there was the UJM, - universal Japanese motorcycle. Seems we got all bikes now 'universal' eh? Hondas made in China, Triumphs in Thailand, Mercs, Audi's and BMW's made in China. Guess economies of scale take precedence over national pride and prejudice, eh? Ah, who cares? As long as the bike looks right and does what it's supposed to... How can anyone be too one-eyed about brand loyalty these days? After Suzuki and Kawaski started jointly marketing certain models it's obvious there's going to be more of this going on.

[Motu]

I think the KLR650 is made in Malaysia or Indonesia,somewhere like that,the XT660 is made in Italy I think ( I could reshearch better,but can't be bothered) Production is global.

I see it in the parts I get delivered every day,very fancy boxing,but often no markings of where it's made....Made in EU is common from that part of the world.Product of USA is a good indication that whatever is in the box originated nowhere near the USA.Quality is the only thing we have to worry about these days.

The Barum tyres I sometimes sell are interesting,the Barum Bravuris is made in Chekovslavakia,Germany,France,South Africa and Indonesia.All identical tyres,just made in different Continental factories around the world.

[Ixion]

So, what threads do the Hinckley Triumphs use? Imperial or metric ?

[Motu]

They'd be ISO - used everywhere but Japan.

It's funny when a Euro,Aussie or ''British" car come into an average workshop - the mechanics start bleating about all the wierd spanner sizes they have to use (de javu for those of use who had to use Whitworth) They use bizare sizes like 11mm,13mm and 15mm.We are so used to Japanese vehicles that 10,12 and 14mm are ''normal'' - but actualy it's the Japanese that are ''different''.

[Big Dave]

So, what threads do the Hinckley Triumphs use? Imperial or metric ?

Metric - the Buell has both.

[Dodgyiti]

Lol, seems like bloody everything is somehow affected or built using asain originated parts.

not everything, Marelli make good ignitions, Brembo make great brakes, Marzzochi ( however you spell it)have good forks
So there is no urgent need to get down on your knees and bow to your Asian Overlords, unless you want to, that is:eyepoke:

[Big Dave]

It's degrees of separation - as I said in the Harley thread - the whole industry uses global components - and the heart of the beasts is still forged in England.

[Dodgyiti]

I... and the heart of the beasts is still forged in England.

And how well have they done compared to how the British bike indistry was in the late eighties, as in non-existant!
Every year they take the market head on and have great success, it's not so much about nostalgia any more, it's about a quality U.K. run motorcycle company that strives to innovate.
Give me a thruxton for my shed anyday

[Motu]

The first Hickney Triumph's weren't about nostalga at all,the logo was about it.But once established they started to bring in some styling influences from the earlier bikes,and still do.I think Triumph are finaly going where I wanted them to go in the first place.

[onearmedbandit]

not everything, Marelli make good ignitions, Brembo make great brakes, Marzzochi ( however you spell it)have good forks
So there is no urgent need to get down on your knees and bow to your Asian Overlords, unless you want to, that is:eyepoke:

Ahhh, true, but they make you pay for it....

[Dodgyiti]

The first Hickney Triumph's weren't about nostalga at all,the logo was about it.But once established they started to bring in some styling influences from the earlier bikes,and still do.I think Triumph are finaly going where I wanted them to go in the first place.

Yeah, true. I ment that some people in the beginning of the Hinkley takeover, in some respect were buying them because they were a Triumph, not because they could scrap with the latest 600's from Japan.
Just the same way as I went a bit Ga-Ga over that limited production Norton supposed to be coming out later this year, I would not expect to take on a Z6R on it, but hey, it looks like a fastback, and could be reliable too...

[Bonez]

There was a time when there was the UJM, - universal Japanese motorcycle.

For your etification a UJM is an air-cooled, sohc or dohc, 4 cylinder japanese motorcycle............. HTH.

Oh and a link explaining this, US but you get the idea- http://www.geocities.com/ujmrider/ujmhistory.html

[Bonez]

The first Hickney Triumph's weren't about nostalga at all,the logo was about it.But once established they started to bring in some styling influences from the earlier bikes,and still do.I think Triumph are finaly going where I wanted them to go in the first place.

Unfortunately John Bloor wasn't allowed to use the original trumpy logo. Old Triumph had developed watercooled powerplants that wheren't put into fullblown production. Hinkley did what the old Triumph should have done to compete with the Japs and have establish themselves in there own right IMHO.