Originally Posted by Dafe
Sounds like a "group activity" I hope it was consentual!!!![]()
Originally Posted by Dafe
Sounds like a "group activity" I hope it was consentual!!!![]()
Gotta be more to this story... they don't charge unless they know who the driver is...unless you have been asked already and decided not to say? Gotta bemore to this story.
Can be charged up to 6 months later...Cop probably thought it was GIXSER and ismaking it all up...Originally Posted by GIXser
It's not relating to the bin crashe.
The bin was earlier in the month, on a different road and they already notified me they taking that one no further.
Hey AH, don't assume that just cause you bitch when things go wrong that I am.Originally Posted by swanny
I am asking advice twat.
It will be a cold day before I want your sympathies.
Yeah sure, there is more to it. I got a letter asking who the driver was, which I duly answered, being the law abiding and safe driver that I am I told the truth.Originally Posted by Patrick
But as to my original post that changes nothing. I still don't know what I have done wrong, other than apparently drive dangerously.
And no I am not bitching or moaning, just seeking advice on how best to defend this scurrilous accusation.
the letter that you duly answered, probably conatined the phrase 'operated a vehicle in a dangerous manner on Xxx Rd' or something similar.
If you answered that it was you, then there and then you signed your guilty plea....
If I got one of those letters I'd just say Texmo was riding my bike. They've already done him once!
Yeah, like I am not trying to withold detail here guys.Originally Posted by Dynamytus50
There is a covering letter and yes it does tell me what road I was on and the date and the time.
Now think back to the 18th of January at 16:20. What were you doing at the time?
It still does not tell me what I supposedly did wrong, which really is the crux of the matter is it not?
Like Patrick says, this sounds very strange. Dangerous is not an infringment offence. If it was a complaint you should have been interviewed before being charged. If it was witnessed by a cop, why has it taken so long?
Whatever the case I'd get onto it now, otherwise you'll have a minimum 6 months on Shanks's Pony.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Originally Posted by CaN
Oh sorry about that, I thought you were referring to your accident.
My apologies.
Good luck in sorting this charge out...
Do let us know how you get on.
Maybe as Marty says in his post... you may have signed your guilty plea off.
Originally Posted by marty
Hope it won't be too expensive when you go to court over it.
Court fees are $130 as well.
He hasn't pleaded guilty for God's sake. He's only admitted to being the rider.
They will still have to prove the charge.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
'guilty plea' is probably the wrong phrase to use, as it implies that you have already pleaded guilty. all i meant is that you have acknowledged the offence, and that you were the operator of the vehicle. it certainly makes the officers job easier, when you acknowledge that you were operating a vehicle, when they consider that that vehicle was being in a manner that has given rise to a complaint.
i presume the notice you recived is a green traffic offence notice. this notice is only a means to tell you that you are going to be charged. if it's for dangerous, you will soon be summonsed to court, and appear before a judge. dangerous carries a minimum sentence of disqualification, so it's in your interests to chase up the details.
it is likely the file has not yet been fully created - it should have gone to the bureau in wellington where the information is laid and file is made up. you should write to the bureau to obtain as much info as possible - witness details, videos, statements, etc etc.
it's easy to make it difficult - it's often worth it just so you can discuss dropping the charge to careless (no mandatory disqual eh brucebut in any case, you are entitled to full disclosure.
HEhehehe:spudwave:Originally Posted by Patrick
You have the right to refrain from making a statement so why would there be a requirement that a person suspected of an offence should make a statement before they can be charged? Makes no sense. Its up to the suspected / charged person whether or not they want to make a statement, they can't be compelled to give one.Originally Posted by crashe
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