Coming from you could you actually call it a favour?Originally Posted by The_Dover
Coming from you could you actually call it a favour?Originally Posted by The_Dover
They'll have to, if CaN defends it. Then a good lawyer will chew the nark bastard up and spit out the bones.Originally Posted by sAsLEX
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
A couple of other things I would like to ask please.
1) My family were behind me on the day in question about 3 - 4 cars back. It was quite a leisurly return from our holiday up north and we were deliberately taking it easy so as to stay together. Can family members be witnesses? Like this is genuine, not some trumped up arrangement. They were equally as perplexed as to the cause of the ticket.
2) What do I ask for when asking for disclosure? Do I just... Give them sufficient references to the TON and Summons and say " I wish to formally request disclosure of all relavent information to the case in question??
And hey, thank you all for the input so far.
Definitely use your witnesses, once you know what the facts are.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
No they can't... well they can, BUT lying under oath is perjury, and itself an offence... Theoretically...Originally Posted by Patrick
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
Originally Posted by CaN
Yeah thats pretty much it, if they refuse you will have to get a lawyer.
In my case the police took thier time giving out the evidence, and even then it was only 50% of what they had.
Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot
Its a case of the charge having to be laid within six months of the date of the offence, not how long the overall proceedings get dragged out.Originally Posted by sAsLEX
As I read it this case may have been laid outside of the six months limitation.
You can call your own defence witnesses. They may be cross examined by the prosecution.Originally Posted by CaN
Just ask for disclosure relating to the TON number, give them your name and the nature of the charge.
Not theoretically, it is an offence. The only problem is proving that they are lying.Originally Posted by Bend-it
It might be a good idea to ask for full discloser in writing and taking into the police station where charges where made from and keeping a copy for yourself. Good luck
If you defend it, there is a pretty good chance the complainant won't be bothered showing up and then you win. Especially if your family were watching and didn't see anything seriously wrong, so it must have been pretty minor.
Hope the complainant lives a long way away and works 7 days a week![]()
Originally Posted by limbimtimwim
And you end up going to court which costs you money! God bless the cops attitude towards charging people based on weak evidence
i'd kick the fuckin pigs if they wouldn't charge me for it.
motherfuckers
yeah man, right in the fuckin nuts
Family are witnesses, let the prosecutor or the cop pushing the case know, he may change his mind once they are spoken to and drop it, if it is a weak case....Originally Posted by CaN
Request disclosure as above - note the date of the verbal request you made already "to any officer..." it is still a request to any officer. It does not have to be the one doing the file. Then do the written request, forward it and keep a copy. If it still isn't given, after two requests within a reasonable time frame (usually 20 days after the request, as required by the Official Information Act, but some circumstances can exist where a judge will say "fair enough...") but more often than not, the judge will toss it out on non disclosure after requests made, alone!
Check out the date of the offence and the date the information was sworn. As Spud said, there is a statute of limitations, they may have to charge you within 6 months of the offence date. (Different for some matters, where there is no limitations, like serious crimes etc, driving while disqualified also has no statute of limitation either....F.Y.I....)
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