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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    Do you know of any that will work for sexual favours?

    I may need one soon too but i'm skint.
    Coming from you could you actually call it a favour?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    . and how can the police charge someone from another drivers statment? Might pay to get them to appear in court to give evidence
    They'll have to, if CaN defends it. Then a good lawyer will chew the nark bastard up and spit out the bones.
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    A couple of other things I would like to ask please.

    1) My family were behind me on the day in question about 3 - 4 cars back. It was quite a leisurly return from our holiday up north and we were deliberately taking it easy so as to stay together. Can family members be witnesses? Like this is genuine, not some trumped up arrangement. They were equally as perplexed as to the cause of the ticket.

    2) What do I ask for when asking for disclosure? Do I just... Give them sufficient references to the TON and Summons and say " I wish to formally request disclosure of all relavent information to the case in question??

    And hey, thank you all for the input so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Definitely use your witnesses, once you know what the facts are.
    Speed doesn't kill people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick
    Onus of proof is on the prosecution. Defendant doesn't even have to give evidence. If they do, they can lie through their teeth to create a reasonable doubt and still get off...
    No they can't... well they can, BUT lying under oath is perjury, and itself an offence... Theoretically...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaN
    A couple of other things I would like to ask please.
    2) What do I ask for when asking for disclosure? Do I just... Give them sufficient references to the TON and Summons and say " I wish to formally request disclosure of all relavent information to the case in question??

    Yeah thats pretty much it, if they refuse you will have to get a lawyer.

    In my case the police took thier time giving out the evidence, and even then it was only 50% of what they had.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    Sorry but I will think you will find the vast majority of cases on here extend past 6 months, I know ***** had to front up to court with his lawyer multiple times and each time the case got put off so he was left with a big lawyer bill and multiple days off work all cause our courts are overwhelmed.
    Its a case of the charge having to be laid within six months of the date of the offence, not how long the overall proceedings get dragged out.

    As I read it this case may have been laid outside of the six months limitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaN
    A couple of other things I would like to ask please.

    1) My family were behind me on the day in question about 3 - 4 cars back. It was quite a leisurly return from our holiday up north and we were deliberately taking it easy so as to stay together. Can family members be witnesses? Like this is genuine, not some trumped up arrangement. They were equally as perplexed as to the cause of the ticket.

    2) What do I ask for when asking for disclosure? Do I just... Give them sufficient references to the TON and Summons and say " I wish to formally request disclosure of all relavent information to the case in question??

    And hey, thank you all for the input so far.
    You can call your own defence witnesses. They may be cross examined by the prosecution.

    Just ask for disclosure relating to the TON number, give them your name and the nature of the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bend-it
    No they can't... well they can, BUT lying under oath is perjury, and itself an offence... Theoretically...
    Not theoretically, it is an offence. The only problem is proving that they are lying.

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    It might be a good idea to ask for full discloser in writing and taking into the police station where charges where made from and keeping a copy for yourself. Good luck

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    If you defend it, there is a pretty good chance the complainant won't be bothered showing up and then you win. Especially if your family were watching and didn't see anything seriously wrong, so it must have been pretty minor.

    Hope the complainant lives a long way away and works 7 days a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by limbimtimwim
    If you defend it, there is a pretty good chance the complainant won't be bothered showing up and then you win. Especially if your family were watching and didn't see anything seriously wrong, so it must have been pretty minor.

    Hope the complainant lives a long way away and works 7 days a week

    And you end up going to court which costs you money! God bless the cops attitude towards charging people based on weak evidence

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    i'd kick the fuckin pigs if they wouldn't charge me for it.

    motherfuckers

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    yeah man, right in the fuckin nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaN
    A couple of other things I would like to ask please.

    1) My family were behind me on the day in question about 3 - 4 cars back. It was quite a leisurly return from our holiday up north and we were deliberately taking it easy so as to stay together. Can family members be witnesses? Like this is genuine, not some trumped up arrangement. They were equally as perplexed as to the cause of the ticket.

    2) say " I wish to formally request disclosure of all relavent information to the case against me to be heard at....on....

    And hey, thank you all for the input so far.
    Family are witnesses, let the prosecutor or the cop pushing the case know, he may change his mind once they are spoken to and drop it, if it is a weak case....

    Request disclosure as above - note the date of the verbal request you made already "to any officer..." it is still a request to any officer. It does not have to be the one doing the file. Then do the written request, forward it and keep a copy. If it still isn't given, after two requests within a reasonable time frame (usually 20 days after the request, as required by the Official Information Act, but some circumstances can exist where a judge will say "fair enough...") but more often than not, the judge will toss it out on non disclosure after requests made, alone!

    Check out the date of the offence and the date the information was sworn. As Spud said, there is a statute of limitations, they may have to charge you within 6 months of the offence date. (Different for some matters, where there is no limitations, like serious crimes etc, driving while disqualified also has no statute of limitation either....F.Y.I....)

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