He won't be doing this again...

**imdying** · 4th April 2006, 18:51

Maybe he's working with Sutage

dun dun dunnnn

**Quasievil** · 4th April 2006, 18:53

Originally Posted by Finn

OAB, could you do me a favour? Could you use your admin privileges and please report on how many KBers have contacted Quasie to purchase some on his cool leatherware and cross reference these to how many members have disappeared ?

The man works with leather. We may just have a serial killer on our hands. His reverse psychology supporting scum suckers isn't working with me.

Fuck I give up, Finn you got the brain of a schoolboy.

**Madness** · 4th April 2006, 18:56

applause!!!!!!

**Jackrat** · 4th April 2006, 19:14

Originally Posted by Finn

So what if he had a mum. I bet she's a mongrel too.

Our justice system is failing us all. We should all celebrate this victory. Scum must die!

Just like yours "as you said" is a bitch.
Maybe that explains your never ending bullshit.
Keep away from mirrors boy,you might see what the rest of us are seeing.

**Goblin** · 4th April 2006, 19:56

Originally Posted by oldrider

I agree with all of you but I don't agree with the pathetic society in which we all share while our brains and emotions slowly turn to sub-human mush.

Sad but true. It's hard to find sympathy for these people who have no respect for anyone or anything. Every day I pick my daughter up from school they hang around the gate abusing everyone and spitting on cars. My daughter's phone was pinched out of the PE shed last year and ended up in Ford Block. The girl that pinched it didnt even turn up to school for a whole month. The police even told me to go and get the phone back myself.

It is sad that this boy died in these circumstances but it's one less for the taxpayer to pay dole money and/or in prison.

**scumdog** · 4th April 2006, 20:38

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Some of you guys are very representative of a society that doesnt give a shit about the young people and the issues they face, I think that is disgusting personally.

Maybe its because Im 40 years old and have lived through alot of shite myself and that is why I can find some heart for these guys , I dont know.

I am struggling though with some of the attitudes some of you have displayed, maybe youre just here to bait and stir things up, maybe your just not intelligent enough to adopt a stance that weighs situations up on the individual cases.

Any way thats it, for those of you that think its great these kids are dead, I really hope that your kids fall of the rails and get killed, I will be the first to say Im sorry, you well ....... we know your opinion eh ?

I'm over 50 and have a black-belt in cynicism, I don't wish that these youths died but for once in their miserable lives they discovered there CAN be repercussions for actions - even if it WAS little late.

I've no time for leeches in society, people have to earn their way in societies of all sorts, not thrive by leeching off others.

If my kids were fucktard enough to do this sort of shit they deserve everything that goes their way, they die as a result? bad luck, I didn't 'make them do it'.

I never said it's 'great' these other two losers died, maybe they might have changed into model citizens as time went by - but I wouldn't hold my breath for those types, no siree.

**Quasievil** · 4th April 2006, 20:57

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

lol Finn you asshole you broke him

I would doubt any off you would be capable of that buddy

**Ixion** · 4th April 2006, 20:58

'Tis a sad fact, but cold reality is, as every farmer knows, that herds need culling.

Question is whether any society can afford to carry freeloaders. Nothing to do with hating them, just a matter of objective logic. If someone is costing society more than they have contributed, or will foreseeably contribute, then society is better of without them. If they remove themselves, then that simplifies things. (Not a go at invalids or old folk - the old have contributed through life and invalids deserve compassion)

Sad for their families, Mums and so on. Naturally noone expects them not to be upset. But we, in general don't know them personally. We look upon their demise objectively.

'Tis the same as an army in battle. General says that company X is to advance and seize an objective. He knows there will be casualties.

Afterwards the adjutant comes along with the casualty list. And many of company X are now dead. General doesn't rejoice in that, he didn't hate those soldiers. But he's not going to pack a fit of the miseries either. Objectively, he'll recognise and regret that men died. But that happens.

So in society. People die. We don't rejoice about it. But some of those that die, we can objectively recognise that society hasn't lost much.

End of the day, human life is disposable. It's one of the cheapest commodities around. If the person that died wasn't going to be a contributor to society I'm not going to shed tears. But of course I recognise that his family will. There's no ill will or malice in that statement, just detached objectivity.

Actions have consequences. If the consequences catch up with you, well, you made the decisions. That young 'un made made his decisions. As did his parents. The consequences caught up with him. His choices, their choices. On the face of it, society hasn't lost much, I'm not going to cry crocodile tears.

**Quasievil** · 4th April 2006, 21:06

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Yeah like i think basically what scumdog is saying is what everyone is meaning.

Quasi I kinda think youve turned it into something its not; people are not throwing parties about his death but they are not upset that he wont be stealing their bike and screaming around the streets dangerously on it anymore.

Im not trying to get under your skin or bait you but i do think you have taken this the wrong way somewhat....

Of course youre not trying to bait me, why would you do that

I think my point is, Im not into disrepecting people when I dont know them, especially dead people, Finn and Co have gone out of there way to, they have insulted the kids family and any class of person they deem as beneath him, they are biggots, racists and I despise people like that, they are pathetic imature and in my view have no place in NZ

Anyway, I know for sure that Finn and Co, are purely baiting and nothing else so Im not taking it to heart, I feel sorry for him and Co.

**Madness** · 4th April 2006, 21:30

ten characters

**Quasievil** · 4th April 2006, 21:50

Originally Posted by Ixion

Question is whether any society can afford to carry freeloaders. Nothing to do with hating them, just a matter of objective logic. If someone is costing society more than they have contributed, or will foreseeably contribute, then society is better of without them. If they remove themselves, then that simplifies things. (Not a go at invalids or old folk - the old have contributed through life and invalids deserve compassion)

I know where your coming from and its great to have some intelligent comment, and I agree with you mostly, the thing is how and who decides (if a decision was to be made) if someone is costing society than they contribute, and also by what standards ie religious ? financal standards ? and if there were in the future any decisions made , how would they reflect the society we live in ?
Ever see Logans run ?
Radical point here nothing intended, but in Nazi Germany they made desicions on such standards, their standards, they judged by those standards that some people didnt contribute in the expectations of the citizens they had power over. I know thats extreme, but the day we as people start to judge and or value other people by our own standards and expectations is the start of a bad thing, especially when we take it to the next step and persecute those people.
Imagine if we were over taken by Islamic fundementalists do you think they would consider infidils like you and me worthy citizens ? or what if you found yourself in Afganistan or Iran as a Christain, you would be judged and probably killed for it. See Judging people is a serious thing, and potentially a dangerous thing, Obviously not in NZ right here right now but it is a road that is not a good one to go down.
Whats pissed me off and the only thing that has pissed me off on this thread is the tone, the flavour demonstrated by Finn and Co is sick, from "scum should die" to "his mother is a mongrel" that pisses me off.
I know they dont mean it though, proof would be if they were first on the scene of this particular accident, I couldnt imagine they would say to the dying kid "Scum should die"! would they? They wouldnt know him any better than they do know would they. therefore they are stupid

Cant believe Im still posting on this stupid fucking thread

**Albino** · 4th April 2006, 22:00

Yeeps theres been some pretty insulting and derogatory stuff said on here.

Would any of the antagonisers post these comments if your personal contact details were available? I guess that's the beauty of the internet which is cool...but one of you either doesn't mind or doesn't think these "scum" have the brains to be where I was when I saw your ph number today.....

**Ixion** · 4th April 2006, 22:01

Well, in this case the kid decided. Don't reckon any society could be trusted with actually making those decisions. But if people make them for themselves, well, so be it.

Ancient Greeks, used to ostracise people - basically a case of saying "We've all talked it over (being as ancient greeks weren't too numerous) and we reckon you're a loser. Piss off, and come back if you decide to pull your weight"

We, society, actually spend a lot of time and effort trying to make people pull their weight. WINZ has all sorts of rules about it, police do a lot. Some folk though, just don't want to carry their share of the load.

Like I say, I don't advocate or support society actively eliminating members considered to be bludgers. Not many humans could be trusted with that sort of judgement and the ones who could wouldn't be the ones that got the job. But fact is, we do have a lot of bludgers, and if one of them removes himself , in consequence of his own stupidity, then *shrug*

But if I'd been first on the scene I'd have done all I could to help and comfort. As I'm sure would anyone else. It's the difference between personal and abstract.