Chch HP being C**nts

[madboy]

Person No 1 bitches about Person No 2 not obeying a road rule that Person No 1 thinks is important, while at the same time Person No 1 is happy to disobey the road rule that Person No 2 thinks is important. Who is right? Hmmm... let me reflect on this.

I speed. I lanesplit. I cut up cars. I wheelie. I stoppie. I light the back wheel up in the wet. I get my knee down on public roads.

Does that give me the right to criticise someone else because they don't perform a lane change by the book, or run a red light?

You can argue that running a red can cause an accident. Yes, you're right. You can also argue that speeding can cause an accident. Yes, you're also right.

So who's right?

The person who is right is the one who didn't cause the accident. The person who is wrong is the one who did. It's the circumstances on the day that decides what road rule/s that got broken was the one (or more) that was truly wrong.

Drive/ride to the circumstances. Give the cops a break, at least they're concentrating on a different section of road rules for a change.

[dangerous]

I speed. I lanesplit. I cut up cars. I wheelie. I stoppie. I light the back wheel up in the wet. I get my knee down on public roads.

Does that give me the right to criticise someone else because they don't perform a lane change by the book, or run a red light?

Very odd post... yes it does give you the right... unless you wheelie and shit were there are other rd users about.

That would be fine if NZ drivers could learn to get up to motorway speed BEFORE merging. Instead of doddering down the merge lane at 40kph and expecting the motorway lane to slow down to 40kph to let them in

Bloody good point

I have also found out some more information in regards to the lady killed last week, from a witness to the event.
It seems that a 4wd decided to change lanes to the far right of 2 right turning lanes at the last moment (to head right to the overbridge from Blenheim road for those of you who know the road) and clipped the front wheel of the bike (who just happened to be there, poor fk), which sent the bike onto its side where it slid under a truck.

Now for those of who who bitch about cops enforcing the law, and especially at intersections... reflect on THAT.

Skyryder... now how do you feel about drifting across lanes now?

What's wrong with using the left lane too, but allowed room for cars to merge?

Nothing at all, and if traffic if light I'd be in the left, but your idea is flored... people drive so fuking close to ya bumper these days no one can merge.
now I know you no the rd I was taliking about same as its been for years... but these days its bumper to bumper, and besides why change lanes at every on ramp just to chang back again IMO that gives more chance of say not seeing a bike pull up the side of ya.

[quickbuck]

But surely they could have warned everyone?

They did, it is in the road code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roading designers do not put two lanes on a road just because there are turkeys who can't turn their car (or more likely puddle jumper, if in Auckland) into one lane.

My driving instructor pulled me over when I ventured into the other lane at an intersection on a lesson and gave me the third degree about it (talked about charges of manslaughter if I knocked of a motorcyclist). That was the last time I ever did it! I also became one of those motorcyclists.

[quickbuck]

That person you're calling a fucker was a pilot. He was trying to tell you to get off the fucking runway. While you're in the big smoke perhaps you should get your eyes checked out.

LOL, yeah, the give away was that the zebra crossing was 250ft across!

[Rhino]

Yip.. I know the suituation you were in... thats why a lot of traffic drives the 'right' hand lane... including me, it allows those wanting to merge to merge

When I have been on motorways in Aus, the standard practice is for those in the left lane to move over one lane to the right as they approach a merging on-ramp. It works very well.

That would be fine if NZ drivers could learn to get up to motorway speed BEFORE merging. Instead of doddering down the merge lane at 40kph and expecting the motorway lane to slow down to 40kph to let them in

Hear Bloody Hear. Until a few months ago I used to enter the Auckland Southern Motorway at Greenlane, heading South. At least 3 days a week I would get stuck behind some tard doing exactly that.

[pritch]

I speed. I lanesplit. I cut up cars. I wheelie. I stoppie. I light the back wheel up in the wet. I get my knee down on public roads.

So who's right?

I honestly don't know.

I do think, however, that you just narrowed the field down a little :-)

[dangerous]

When I have been on motorways in Aus, the standard practice is for those in the left lane to move over one lane to the right as they approach a merging on-ramp. It works very well.

Yip thats rght, but here people are in there own wee dream world. I lived in Brisie for a while and rode to Sydney a couple a times... the traffic flows so nice, people leting people in, but then with that volum of traffic ya have to cos when it does turn to shit... its a bloody big mess which intrupts hundreds of people so I guess they sooner avoid the suituation by being more curtious.

[Lou Girardin]

Nothing at all, and if traffic if light I'd be in the left, but your idea is flored... people drive so fuking close to ya bumper these days no one can merge.
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Sorry DD this doesn't wash. If you kept a space between you and the vehicle in front, others would be able to merge and it would give you extra space to slow without risking a Liberace from the car behind.

[Jackrat]

I don't have any issues with the cops pushing what some people might call "small stuff" because "WE" are constantly on about crap driving skills and habits in others.
They "da coppers" have to start somewhere,so they start nailing people for what creates heaps of problems.Bloody bout time I reckon.
I've always wanted them to police intersection rules rather than open road speeds.It makes sence because it's at intersections where most accidents happen.As a biker you only have to think about where your most likely to have a blind cunt run you down.
Of course that won't make any sence to the wankers that just like to have a bitch at the cops.But then who cares,their only part timers anyway.

[Rashika]

IMHO we as NZrs just aren't used to large volumes of traffic...we like our own 'space' and seem to think that others are invading it when all they are generally trying to do is merge into the flow of traffic...we dont (yet) understand the messages that people send by flashing their lights, we would prob think it means we are doing something wrong.

I too have driven in the Uk and the USA, heavy traffic is the norm and people do understand that we have to co-operate sometimes in order to get to our destination....letting traffic thru is standard.

I think the message will get thru eventually, but it will take a lot of retraining our drivers.... many years most likely. Seems the only thing we understand is penalties, so it is the only route our police can take... one day maybe we will see the benefits of it...fingers crossed!

[pzkpfw]

Can I ask a question here?

There's a street I use a lot here in Wellington, where two lanes can turn right, into a three lane road.

[I use the left lane and turn into the left lane (gets me to my park later down the road).]

Legally - who goes where?

Cars in both the left and right lane randomly go into the middle lane.

I would think NEITHER should go to the middle lane, as left goes left and right goes right...?

Cheers,

[Pixie]

Yip its not often people will let you in...

Aaaahh young puppy,
They will always let you in.
I learnt,with the aid of a company car,That if you indicate for 15 t0 20 seconds and then slowly move into the lane you wish to occupy,they will make room rather than dent their vehicle.

Although I did have one bloody minded prick end up on the grass verge when he didn't open up a gap.

[Pixie]

The Rode Code comprises a whole series of "shitty little rules". But the point here is that vehicle operators seem to have a view that once they have their license they are free to observe the ones they like and disregard the rest. Like optional use of turning indicators, driving with park lights only on, lack of understanding of the right-hand rule at intersections...

This is one reason why all drivers/riders should have to resit written and practical tests every five years.

Fine the shit out of these offenders, and hopefully they and others will learn from the experience, I say!

This isn't because they forget the regs,therefore resitting tests will have no effect.
The reason the rules are ignored is because the authorities haven't bothered to enforce them.
I often see cop cars doing all these "minor infringements"

[Pixie]

If you are having trouble merging, you must speed up (scarey as it seems) not slow down. Caveat: As always, do not speed up so much that cannot stop if things really do balls up. Always something in reserve, eh.

Actually if the traffic,in general,sped up when three lanes merge into two,there would be no bottlenecks.
Like water going through a nozzle.
But that's utopian and would require drivers to be skilled and awake

[Ixion]

Though if the three lanes are all full, they would have to speed up quite a lot to fit into two. But the point in general is valid, speeding up increases the carrying capacity of the road. Annoyingly, in this situation (3 lanes dropping to two, four to three, two to one), the plonkers do totally the reverse. They slow down! Argggghh.