Yep, and definitely take helmet off if you're transacting with a cashier. You'd probably need to take out ear plugs too, so that you can understand what they are saying.
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Yep, and definitely take helmet off if you're transacting with a cashier. You'd probably need to take out ear plugs too, so that you can understand what they are saying.
Hardcore Biker
Being a cynic by nature I'm amazed that anyone believes this is an attempt to reduce congestion. It is nothing short of a blatant tax. Who, for instance drives into the city for any other reason than to work, shop, deliver goods or all the other services that keep the city alive. If exemptions are to be granted shouldn't all these people be the first in line. If, as suggested, the revenue gathering is to take place for example at the harbour bridge then all users, traveling into the city or not, will be paying. Have any measures have been taken to cover those whose jobs take them in and out of the city several times a day??
The best way to beat this IMHO is not by asking for exemptions for certain groups but for all those unfortunate enough to have to work in Auckland to simply not go to work for a week. It might then become clear to the beaurocrats just who are the most important group. It could also bring pressure to bear from employers who contribute more to the wealth of Auckland than any bunch of politicians
Forum whore
Hmm, may pay to read the documents, but in short yeah.Originally Posted by eliot-ness
You pay a max of $6.00 a day. As an employer and someone whom is likely to have people in there many times a day I am really looking forward to it.
When our charge out rate is $100.00 per hour it should save us and our customers a lot of money.
slightly adventurous
Submission made and link passed on to other motorcyclists at work (they're not all KBers)
Hardcore Biker
Shit! They've closed submissions already! It's not even the end of the day. Lazy government fucks.
slightly adventurous
Fax your submission to them if you can't use the online form now.
Fax no.: 04 495 9788
Average trowel is average!
There's an email address there you can send submissions to. I made mine, hopefully not too late.
Forum whore
It's good they can translate the website to Maori but perhaps they could have spent money getting it to work in Firefox.
Forum whore
If it really is a "congestion" charge then shouldn't motorcycles / mopeds and other PTA's be either excempt or have a significantly reduced charge (as is done is London for example)?
On a similar vein, surely there should be a high "peak time" charge. For example, $3 per day "off peak" and $6 per day if you drive in the zone between 7am - 9am or 4pm to 6pm?
Let the sparks fly. I also reckoned they should increase the tax on gogo juice. I'd happily pay 3 bucks a litre to go on SUV free roads.
Hardsnore Biker
I just did the online submisison and itwas stil open.
I travel to the city centre each day on my bike. If tolls are put in place I will swap to a company car and use that. I'll do that because it will be better for me personaly.
This will not solve anything, there is no solution. I don't choose to travel on poorly designed, congested roads (ie resulting from under-investment) cos its fun. I do it cos I need to, as I suspect most people do. How I choose to get to where I need to is based on a personal value decision for me, as will everyone else.
Tax wont change the underlying problems or introduce better options or any solutions. So why is it on the agenda??????
London achieved significant changes, wonder if that had anything to do with the existing public transport alternatives????
The other thing that pisses me even more is that we have nbeen suckered into this submission bullshit. Is there a bunch of gummbermint tossers somewhere reading all of this and summerising it - umm no.
Should have a site where you online vote.
This gumbermint is over the top.
The next step for me is that I am going to email my local MP and Local Gumbermint reps and tell them that I will never vote for them again if this comes to pass.
(in the above thread someone talked about the transponder method - I read something a while back, Melbourne newpaper I think, where someone made this centrifuge thing that killed the transponders without damaging the tamper seals on them)
gypsy
why the fuck should i worry?????
i don't live in dork land!
what a ride so far!!!!
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Don't start that shite!why the fuck should i worry?????
i don't live in dork land!
I don't want to have come down to South Auckland and give you the jandal....
Forum whore
why the fuck should i worry?????
i don't live in dork land!
ummm yeah, like, grow up...
"...New Zealanders, for all their faults, have virtues that are precious: an unwillingness to be intimidated by the new, the formidable, or class systems; trust in situations where there would otherwise be none; compassion for the underdog; a sense of responsibility for people in difficulty; not undertaking to do something without seeing it through - "
Michael King
Immature and proud of it.
That's what we did at the Harbour Bridge toll booths, except for the eftpos that is.
Although there may have been a 1000 submissions, many of those are from interested groups, and the letters to the editor have been unanimous in opposition. Pollies consider each letter to represent a 1000 individual views. If they introduce these measures without having an efficient transport system in place, they current office holders can kiss their place in the trough goodbye.
BTW I'm particularly impressed that the Shorites will have to pay more because we're "richer". I think the Westies and Southies should pay more because it's easier for the Gummint to top up their benefits.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
slightly adventurous
I used to have a bulldog clip attached to the brake mount to hold the coins. It was quite a common solution if my memory is correct!
Another aspect of the proposal which annoyed me was the assumption that the charges would result in time savings and implied that this would increase productivity, offsetting the cost to individuals. Well swapping from a motorcycle to a bus would actually increase my commuting time by more than 200%! (<10 minutes to >30 minutes door to door). And the planners wonder why people don't use public transport!?
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