Learner License Conditions

**SwanTiger** · 17th April 2006, 20:07

Taken from the LTSA website regarding a learner motorcycle license:

"You must not go faster than 70 km/h on the open road."

"Open Road", does this mean that doing 100kmp/h on the Motorway is legal however over 100kmp/h on the "Open Road" (take most of SH16 as an example) is illegal?

**MidnightMike** · 17th April 2006, 20:09

Originally Posted by swanny

Taken from the LTSA website regarding a learner motorcycle license:

"You must not go faster than 70 km/h on the open road."

"Open Road", does this mean that doing 100kmp/h on the Motorway is legal however over 100kmp/h on the "Open Road" (take most of SH16 as an example) is illegal?

If you ask me its a whole lot of shit, if your confident go the speed limit, if your not then slow down to seventy, and if u have a deathwish tape the throttle fully open. :spudbn:

**Highlander** · 17th April 2006, 20:15

Originally Posted by MidnightMike

and if u have a deathwish tape the throttle fully open. :spudbn:

Or ride that flame throwing Nitrous breathing Busa trike of yours Mike...

**Ixion** · 17th April 2006, 20:16

Over 70kph is illegal, anywhere, on a 6L

**MidnightMike** · 17th April 2006, 20:16

Originally Posted by Highlander

Or ride that flame throwing Nitrous breathing Busa trike of yours Mike...

Lol, forgot about that, still my profile pic, need to dust her off and take her for a spin

**cruxis** · 19th April 2006, 12:39

Another condition, which I am told is a recent admendment but cant find it anywhere in the road code or act. If your a learner and you carry a pillion, You the driver get fined 400$, but also the passenger gets fined 400$ for

what officer wrote on ticket ..

Aiding a restricted driver to drive unqualified (illegiable word) $400

How I know? Over easter My nephew has a Learners Licence, He was the passenger of a Driver who also had a Learners. They got pulled over, The cop give the driver a $400 under Driving contrary to conditions on licence [sect 31(1)(b)] of the act.

The condition broken is: You must not drive on your own. A supervisor must be sitting in the front passenger seat beside you when you're driving. Your supervisor must hold (and have held for at least two years) a current full New Zealand driver licence.

Which is fair enough. Serves him right.

BUT...... The passenger also gets a $400 fine.... So thats 400$ each.

I can see car loads of learner teenagers racking up the fines with this one.

**Ixion** · 19th April 2006, 12:56

Hm. Creative ticketing , methinks. Somewhat sympathise with the cop though. Actually, he might have been better to go for "Instructing a learner driver when not the holder of a full licence " - I think (though I've not checked) that that might be an offence

**MSTRS:Me** · 19th April 2006, 12:57

Originally Posted by cruxis

BUT...... The passenger also gets a $400 fine.... So thats 400$ each.

I can see car loads of learner teenagers racking up the fines with this one.

Kching.... next .....

**Streetwise** · 20th April 2006, 22:09

its all shit and dangerous if you ask me. stick with the flow of traffic.

**Blairos** · 20th April 2006, 22:24

You are much more of a danger at 70K on the Motorway than maintaining speed in the flow of traffic, so long as you are doing so safely (correct following distances, riding to the conditions etc)...

Is it the LTSA's intention to reduce "experience gathering"?

As for the "Idiot Magnet" (L-Plate) dont get me started...

**SwanTiger** · 20th April 2006, 22:31

I wouldn't obey the rule, I was just confused by their choice of words.

**Ixion** · 20th April 2006, 22:36

The LTSA made it confusing.

The actual law is more straightforward

LAND TRANSPORT (DRIVER LICENSING) RULE 1999
PART 4 - LEARNER LICENCES, RESTRICTED LICENCES, AND FULL LICENCES

(c)In the case of a Class 6L licence,—

(i)The holder must not drive between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am; and

(ii)The holder must not drive at a speed exceeding 70 km/h; and

(iii)The holder must not drive a motorcycle that has a total piston displacement exceeding 250 cm3; and

(iv)The holder must not carry another person on the motorcycle or in a sidecar attached to the motorcycle.