Police muscle in on funeral cortege

[Ixion]

Catch a speeder and I bet he's committing more serious crime and if he's not he will..........

Are you serious, or are you taking the mickey? I know that this philosophy is seriously expounded by some at Police HQ. They argue that speeders tend to be also the drunk drivers, and dangerous drivers, and that by cracking down on speeding they remove those drivers from the roads.

So, what do you think about the "broken windows" philosophy?

[Deano]

Catch a speeder and I bet he's committing more serious crime and if he's not he will..........

I would take that bet.

Are you serious, or are you taking the mickey? I know that this philosophy is seriously expounded by some at Police HQ. They argue that speeders tend to be also the drunk drivers, and dangerous drivers, and that by cracking down on speeding they remove those drivers from the roads.

So, what do you think about the "broken windows" philosophy?

Bling for that.

Come on SD - are you serious ? Do you honestly think that the majority of speeders (even 11Km over the limit) are hardened crims with something to hide ?

[sunhuntin]

On the other hand it is traditional for women to show respect by covering their heads.

traditional yes....but im not the traditional woman.....hell, ive even got chest hairs to prove it. im a biker first, woman second.

[Indoo]

ITS EASY MATE I JUST PRIORITIZE ILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE .
MURDERS,KIDDY FIDDELERS,RAPES,ASSAULT,BURGS,TAGGING, DANGEROUS DRIVING,CARELESS DRIVING,NOT INDICATING ,SPEEDING .
NOTICE I PUT THINGS IN AN ORDER IN WHICH TO ATTEND AND THE LEAST IMPORTANT IS LAST ON THE LIST AND THE MOST IMPORTANT IS FIRST

Yeh because 400 or so people are dieing a year and thousands injured as a result of tagging? Even if Police did do a major crack down on taggers do you think its gonna make any difference when the courts just convict and discharge people of the offence, ie no penatly at all.

If you want to adopt the New York approach you have to have enuff cops and a decent justice system, we have neither. The Police association has been asking for years for more frontline cops, not more traffic or community cops ie labours brilliant solution, but more on the frontline.

..., IF ITS TRAFFIC CRIME THEN YOU GUYS ARE ALL OVER IT CAUSE THE FORCE IS FULL OF PUSSY YES MEN AND WOMAN WHO LIKE THE EASY OPTIONS .
IF THAT WASNT A FUNERAL BUT A GANG OF ANGELS OR HEAD HUNTERS OUT THE BACK OF WEST AUCKLAND WEARING NO HELMETS THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT COP WOULD PULL THEM OVER , WHAT A FUCKEN FAG

Yeh right , its one thing talking yourself up on the internet to the extent you do (over compensation or what?) and doing the same in reality. You would not have the guts or balls to handle even a fraction of what those so called 'pussys' do.

[kevie]

Aint it funny how they are soooooo adammant on pulling over a motorcyclist with no helmet in a funeral procession but the farmers blat along the road on UNREGISTERED, UNWARRANTED bikes with no helmets on and the cops do nothing ........ I dont see what the difference is really ... if you gonna make a law then shouldnt it be for ALL road users, farmers say they are not actually on the road ... they are on the margin.... if I rode my bike unregistered/unwarranted and no helmet in same place I'd get ticketed for sure.

[babyface]

fuck and the police wonder why the public dont want to help.
they have no common sence and the pwer has gone to their heads
just a pack of fuck wits

In light of the unavailability of patrol cars to attend the "Pokeno bad driver" incident, this is even more surprising (nz herald).........

When Les ("Jack") Jackson rode his motorbike behind the hearse carrying his son's body, he was not expecting to be pulled over by the police.

But the grieving father and his family were left distressed after Henderson police tried to stop him for not wearing a motorcycle helmet in the funeral cortege.

Mr Jackson, a member of the Akarana Riders Club, says he rode his Harley-Davidson without a helmet as a mark of respect to his only child, Dean, a blind man who died of an epileptic seizure at 26.

Three police cars tried to stop him in the short distance between the funeral at the Lincoln Rd Bible Chapel and the burial at the Waikumete Cemetery, pushing in behind Mr Jackson and in front of his wife, Kerry, who was being driven behind him.

The funeral director, who declined to be named, complained to the police.

"The mother was extremely upset that they cut in between her and the hearse, and so were a number of other people," he said.

Dean Jackson was active in his church and a regular guest on the Radio Live show Dawn Patrol with Des and Les, where he sang songs on air.

Co-host Bruce Hopkins (aka "Les"), one of 400 people at the funeral, said: "I came out on to Lincoln Rd and there were about 12 or 15 big motorbikes, Harleys and all sorts, which held up the traffic until they could all get in a line and travel along Lincoln Rd. I had tears in my eyes because it was such a powerful image."

But another mourner, who was listening to the police radio in his car, said he heard a an officer describe the procession as "a gang funeral".

Mr Jackson, a truck driver, refused to stop when the police cars pushed in. "There was no way I was pulling over. That would have held everyone up."

When the cortege stopped at a roundabout, an officer shouted to Mr Jackson asking him again to pull over.

"I pointed to the hearse and said, 'That's my son in there'," Mr Jackson said. "He said, 'I don't care'. That's when I gave him the one-finger salute, which evidently he got upset about."

The three police cars in the cortege were joined by two more at the cemetery, but the officers allowed the burial to go ahead. When the mourners left, the police had gone. No charge was laid against Mr Jackson.

Waitakere area police commander Inspector Mark O'Connor said in a statement yesterday that the law did not allow an exemption from wearing a helmet in a funeral cortege.

"Police are sensitive to the needs of families in these circumstances."

[WINJA]

Yeh because 400 or so people are dieing a year and thousands injured as a result of tagging? Even if Police did do a major crack down on taggers do you think its gonna make any difference when the courts just convict and discharge people of the offence, ie no penatly at all.

If you want to adopt the New York approach you have to have enuff cops and a decent justice system, we have neither. The Police association has been asking for years for more frontline cops, not more traffic or community cops ie labours brilliant solution, but more on the frontline.



Yeh right , its one thing talking yourself up on the internet to the extent you do (over compensation or what?) and doing the same in reality. You would not have the guts or balls to handle even a fraction of what those so called 'pussys' do.

8000 PEOPLE JUST GOT CUT FROM SURGERY WAITING LISTS ,HOW MANY OF THEM WILL DIE? THATS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBURG FOR UNECESRY DEATHS IN THIS COUNTRY , WHAT ABOUT SUICIDES , SO ITS NOT LIFE OR DEATH THAT CONCERNS THIS GOVERNMENT ITS MONEY MONEY MONEY AND YOU GUYS ARE THE COLLECTORS.


AS FOR HAVING THE GUTS OR BALLS TO HANDLE WHAT YOU GUYS DO , ITS YOUR FUCKEN JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT NOT ME .

[Squeak the Rat]

Yeh because 400 or so people are dieing a year and thousands injured as a result of tagging?

The biggest single cause of road deaths in this country is premature death as a result of vehicle pollution. In one year there were 253 in Auckland alone (source: ARC website: http://www.arc.govt.nz/arc/environme...le-effects.cfm)

Is saving lives the biggest factor in all this? If so,

1. Where is the low sulphur diesel in this country???
2. When will vehicle emissions be part of the WOF test???

Government inaction would suggest that revenue is a higher priority than saving lives. Believing otherwise would suggest brainwashing, or.......

[Troll]

Police could have used common sense/better judgement and had one car at the end of the funeral to point out 'hey guy's nice touch but helmet's on ok' they aren't above the law cos somebody died.

they have on occassions used cameras taken photo's and sent tickets out in the mail after the event

more sensitive handling of a situation but still a waste of valuable resources that could have been used for more important issues

[terbang]

The law says we must wear a lid. So they are looking after our heads, our heads and no one elses in other words who do we directly harm by not wearing a lid other than ourselves.? So I reckon this law is about looking after the health budget..
So its the law and you don't have one and get caught then I guess you pay the fine..
However in this funeral case I would also go along with the word discretion and would hope that appropriate Rozzers have been spoken to..

[Indoo]

....WHAT ABOUT SUICIDES , SO ITS NOT LIFE OR DEATH THAT CONCERNS THIS GOVERNMENT ITS MONEY MONEY MONEY AND YOU GUYS ARE THE COLLECTORS.

Well not really, the whole revenue thing is a complete joke, if they really wanted money they would focus on license breaches (400 bucks a pop) and wof and registeration ( 200 bucks a pop). They might have a misguided focus on speed but its nothing to do with revenue.

AS FOR HAVING THE GUTS OR BALLS TO HANDLE WHAT YOU GUYS DO , ITS YOUR FUCKEN JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT NOT ME .

Well exactly, your an internet warrior, and thats about that.

[WINJA]

yea right

WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW , YOU LEFT SCHOOL AND WENT STRAIGHT INTO THE FORCE , YOUD KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT NOTHING APART FROM THE BRAINWASHING AT PIG SCHOOL

[WINJA]

Were you still in school at 20?

NAH , I WAS BANGING YOUR MUM IN THE ARSE

[slimjim]

He road without a helmet as a mark of respect?, How on God's green earth does that show a mark of respect?. It shows a marked decrease in common sense, and points towards a good escuse to go for a ride with no lid. Maybe he should have got whacked out on P, got drunk, and dragged a live dog behind the bike as a mark of respect too. Idiotic.

well he wasn't on P. he wasn't DrunK, however he Was Following His SON.. and he seems to love aniamls,, shit unlike yourself

[Albino]

AS FOR HAVING THE GUTS OR BALLS TO HANDLE WHAT YOU GUYS DO , ITS YOUR FUCKEN JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT NOT ME .

Understanding that I might incur the wrath of the CAPS personality , dm had the "balls" to not do his job when he didn't bust the bronz riders for ridiing helmeless.

Having said that, I think dm and winj are thirds in the same multiple personality

Squeeks right. bust those stinking dielsels!